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  • Curtis Harper
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    #181
    Berto, imho....
    > Lucas
    > Horn
    > Rios
    > Vargas and Broner (or at least 50/50)

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      #182
      Originally posted by ADP02
      I thought you left this place since you were proven to be a cheat!!!! You had OK'd 3 judges in which you definitely knew would have given you the edge but pretended that they would not have. That sir, is a CHEAT!!!

      I didn't want your points but as a CHEAT, you said that you would close your account!

      Once a CHEAT, you will always be a CHEAT!


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      LMAOOOOO. Once again, you were to pick the judges. You ran off and everyone was clowning your dumb ass.


      That's 2 victories you dumb bltch You're a disgrace and will always be my bltch


      Once my bltch....twice my bltch 5-0....plus I ran you off of the site for months. BHAHAHAHAHAHA.
      Last edited by travestyny; 09-26-2019, 04:24 AM.

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      • MulaKO
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        #183
        Originally posted by Curtis Harper
        Navigating one's career where they maximize their financial income is one thing. Then there's the stunt Pac pulled. He fools people by being hyper aggressive and humbly smiling in front of the cameras.

        If he were the same guy but arrogant like May, I wonder if his fans would still hail him.....
        To each their own
        Just two very different people

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        • Curtis Harper
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          #184
          Originally posted by MulaKO
          To each their own
          Just two very different people
          Pac fans are not logical

          They say DLH was shot when May beat him but was somehow reinvigorated and a quality win for Pac.

          They say May shouldn't have fought Berto (and I agree)

          BUT

          Berto >>>> Horn, Rios, Lucas. Broner and Vargas would be 50/50

          Pac fans have yet to call him on those ''fights''

          That's how you know a person isn't really a fight fan. They spin shlt to ret@rded proportions.

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          • Larry the boss
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            #185
            Originally posted by ADP02
            I see that you are trying to deflect away from what was said. The other poster pointed out what I have already pointed out previously to you. If it was Floyd, not Manny, you would be OK that Floyd fights someone like a Berto and calls it a day instead of fighting Spence or Crawford. Too risky for Floyd. You want to protect Floyd at all times.


            Canelo at 152: Canelo did NOT want to fight at 152. He was adamant that he would have trouble making 152. Canelo was interviewed a bit before the fight. Canelo admitted that making weight was the hardest thing out of his whole training camp!!!

            Cotto at 145: He was asked the same question in an interview. Cotto laughed it off. He said that he easily made 146 in his previous fight against Clottey. See the difference?

            Margarito at 151: Margarito was a 147lb fighter. He got a 4lbs bonus!


            Floyd had already fought at 154 for the title and won. So that makes it 2 reasons why you do NOT call that fight with Canelo a risk. Third reason is that Canelo was super green back then that had trouble with stamina. Draining Canelo does NOT help your stamina issues!!!


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            stop lying Cotto did not want 145 the WBO had the threaten to strip him for the fight to be made..and Yea he was 146 the fight before but Canelo was also 153 the fight before ..stop telling half truths and that green Canelo was a unified champ

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            • djtmal
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              #186
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              Originally posted by A-Wolf
              Anyone who was following the sport 15-20 years ago knows Floyd stopped taking risks as his profile increased and as his purses grew. His primary game was to always make certain he held a massive footspeed / distance control advantage over anyone he was fighting. Floyd knew from the Augustus fight (and then later the Castillo fights) what his limitations were. When he planted his feet he was only a great fighter. When he could stay on his bike against somebody who had no hope of ever catching him consistently he was an elite fighter.
              I agree when he was ww money may he was calling his own shots, cool good for him, but on the low he was simultaneously avoiding guys who stylistically would have been a risk. Guys like Paul Williams, and the like; the Floyd Boys act like those strategic retirements don't exist. No coincidence he is doing exhibitions when guys like Spence and Crawford look like they have the goods.


              I don't care how good a guy is, there's always that guy who poses a style risk. Floyd comes from a boxing family they understand this type of stuff better than anybody.

              Amir Khan. His pops said he didn't want to see Amir Khan make any money off Floyd, that was the excuse, when the truth was, stylistically the Mayweather camp knew Khan would have been a style risk. Khan even won a public poll that Floyd created, and still didn't get a Floyd shot. That should have opened up some eyes there.
              Last edited by djtmal; 09-26-2019, 06:14 AM.

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                #187
                Originally posted by djtmal
                Amir Khan. His pops said he didn't want to see Amir Khan make any money off Floyd, that was the excuse, when the truth was, stylistically the Mayweather camp knew Khan would have been a style risk. Khan even won a public poll that Floyd created, and still didn't get a Floyd shot. That should have opened up some eyes there.
                The same Khan DSG did away with ?

                Yeah, Pac hes been very active during his career, but he very rarely takes on guys with power

                Thurman had 1 fight prior to Pac and it was after an injury and a lack luster performance vs a club fighter.

                If a fight fan thinks a certain person with a certain style would trouble May, fine. But let's not just out names for the heck of it.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  This thread is interesting. Both Floyd and Manny fight opponents in 70/30 type fights. There are posters that will give Manny credit for "taking a risk" and not Floyd, even though each has the same chance of winning.

                  Floyd defeats Corrales as an underdog and that is not considered taking a risk. Floyd fights bigger men and that isn't considered taking a risk. Yet if Manny wins as an underdog or fights a bigger man it is considered taking a risk.

                  How is this possible?
                  There's a sale on tissues at Wal-Mart this week.

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                  • djtmal
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Curtis Harper
                    The same Khan DSG did away with ?

                    Yeah, Pac hes been very active during his career, but he very rarely takes on guys with power

                    Thurman had 1 fight prior to Pac and it was after an injury and a lack luster performance vs a club fighter.

                    If a fight fan thinks a certain person with a certain style would trouble May, fine. But let's not just out names for the heck of it.
                    Styles make fights. Floyd and Garcia fight nothing alike.

                    What are the chances Floyd lands a hail Mary on Khan if he's being outboxed by a longer guy he can't reach or beat to the punch. He'd have to pray Khan drops his guard like Ortiz did.

                    Facts are facts. Khan won the poll and Floyd still went on and fought the guy whose style he was more comfortable with in Maidana.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Can you not understand that people have forgiven Pac for his cw against cott o he has more than made up for it. Floyd not so much, has a cw against nel o then retires in 2 years without another 154lb fight.

                      Whilst Pac has campaigned at 147 for many more years and great wins at 147. Floyd wasn't going to have much more of a career so why not go out all guns blazing rather than a whimper. Whe n did Floyd fight outside America again?.How can you say floyds taken risks and expect to be taken seriously? Floyd s famous as Mr cautious so how can he then be a risk taker in same breath. You can't have it both ways!

                      Pac s best of era, he doesn't need to fight spence or crawfird. He can do as he pleases. There's no more mountains to climb
                      Your first paragraph is illogical because he fought ODH and Cotto at 154 then fought Canelo at 152.

                      I don't think Floyd has fought outside the US professionally. Why would he? The most money is made here. Like asking why the MCAA tournament isn't played outside the US.

                      Posting it still doesn't make it true. If he doesn't fight Spence or Crawford then fans can't get a unified champ like they want. I don't see why any fan would want a fighter to hold a belt hostage and not unify with other champs. Of course you are not a boxing fan, you are a Manny fan only.

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