Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Kovalev, Fury-Wallin, PEDs, More

[Jab jab boom]

Incomplete. You’re not part of the WADA board for its sciences and Advisory. If there was absolutely no tolerance for Clenbuterol then WADA wouldn’t need to have advised world athletes about contamination nor would they have revised their 2019 protocol measures. It’s all about comprehension.

As a matter of fact, it surprises me that nobody in industry nor it’s fans realize that with WADA’s new code of conduct for Clenbuterol, they have finally acknowledged a THRESHOLD for contamination cases. Meaning, had this have happened to Canelo after it this new regulation was passed it wouldn’t have been news nor would VADA have needed to inform the promoters or teams.

That’s what industry haters of Canelo don’t want people to know. If people don’t understand what was just explained then it proves the point of comprehension vs denialism.

you're an excuse maker. He tested positive for PEDs, a ped that helps with cutting weight and stamina, he did yr round testing and now isn't for some reason. You want to be an apologist, then go ahead, but other than Canelo die hards, nobody is buying it.

[hmc87]

You guys are so naive, the boxing world dupes fan knowledge. Is Jrock true 365? Or just WBC-CBP? Industry has confirmed it’s not the same protocol. Why didn’t Jrock state a message for anyone who fights him must do 120days like Canelo GGG 2 or “anyone who fights me must do 365 or no fight....even though I don’t do it.”

Williams issued this message May 19: Just a friendly reminder for my future opponents I will be requesting at least 90 DAYS RANDOM BLOOD TESTING BY @Vada_Testing won’t be cycling off on me now we’re gonna find out who’s really the best in the 154lbs div.

Boxing fans and especially those on this site are senseless and rabid. Literal ignorance and blind, remorseless ******ity

[hmc87]

you're an excuse maker. He tested positive for PEDs, a ped that helps with cutting weight and stamina, he did yr round testing and now isn't for some reason. You want to be an apologist, then go ahead, but other than Canelo die hards, nobody is buying it.

Canelo is the face of boxing.

He moves when he wanna move.

Future GOAT

[Thuglife Nelo]

you're an excuse maker. He tested positive for PEDs, a ped that helps with cutting weight and stamina, he did yr round testing and now isn't for some reason. You want to be an apologist, then go ahead, but other than Canelo die hards, nobody is buying it.

You’re an idiot. USADA and VADA have exonerated athletes before with Clen/Meat contamination. Which agency did Floyd use?

VADA’s own go to Lab Director said Canelo had meat contamination.

You just cherry pick general facts without contextualing detailed facts. Just so you know, in the court of law, jury’s know what discrimination means. If a Jury found out that other agencies exonerated an athlete for exactly what Canelo had they’d prove him not guilty. How did Vargas get exonerated with double of Canelo’s amount and closer to his fight with Salido? Did you know that Vargas was with Conte, the same Conte thats with Jrock now? The same Jrock that’s associated to Breadman Edwards? WBC had drama with Canelo for refusing the defacto Mexican belt of boxing, who is part of VADA? Whom co founded WBC-CBP? Conflicts of interest much?

Political game is a cakewalk with me bruh. Don’t get owned!

[Jab jab boom]

Canelo is the face of boxing.

He moves when he wanna move.

Future GOAT

irrelevant post and absolutely nothing to do with what's being discussed. Go cheerlead elsewhere.

[Jab jab boom]

You’re an idiot. USADA and VADA have exonerated athletes before with Clen/Meat contamination. Which agency did Floyd use?

VADA’s own go to Lab Director said Canelo had meat contamination.

You just cherry pick general facts without contextualing detailed facts. Just so you know, in the court of law, jury’s know what discrimination means. If a Jury found out that other agencies exonerated an athlete for exactly what Canelo had they’d prove him not guilty. How did Vargas get exonerated with double of Canelo’s amount and closer to his fight with Salido? Did you know that Vargas was with Conte, the same Conte thats with Jrock now? The same Jrock that’s associated to Breadman Edwards? WBC had drama with Canelo for refusing the defacto Mexican belt of boxing, who is part of VADA? Whom co founded WBC-CBP? Conflicts of interest much?

Political game is a cakewalk with me bruh. Don’t get owned!

You could never own me, you're not smart enough and too emotional. You're letting your love of Canelo and dislike for other fighters dictate your stance. Floyd or j rock have nothing to do with this subject. This is about Canelo. 1. He tested positive for clen. Clen helps with weight cutting, and stamina, 2 things canelo has notoriously struggled with. Coincidence? 2. Canelo tested positive when he was tested 3 months out from a fight for the first time and it also happened to be the first time they went to Mexico to test him. Coincidence? 3. We're expected to believe that the richest athlete in Mexican boxing somehow wasn't aware that tainted beef is an issue in his country and didn't take the necessary precautions to avoid this? He was oblivious to an issue that was brought to light as far back as 2011? Sure. 4. You suggesting that Canelo was somehow targeted by the wbc or vada is the most ridiculous accusation of all. The guy has been babied by the wbc since he was 20 and they've continued to bend over backwards for him. He is the most entitled boxer I've ever seen. If anything, there's more of an argument that's there's corruption in his favor when you consider the absurd scorecards he consistently receives, his light ped suspension, and the creation of joke belts such as the franchise title so that mandatories don't have to be enforced on him. 5. There is no good reason for him to have stopped vada 24/7. They made it a big press release last yr to say he enrolled in it, yet not a peep when he drops it? It's shameful.

[Rigpig]

I don’t understand this writer who is also a coach saying Canelo is a HOFer. The guy tested positive for PEDs. You only have to look at his changing physique over the years to know he’s been using. You know how many fighters there are that don’t use that if they did would be so much better. The guy hasn’t been playing on an even playing field and still doesn’t get decisive victories. This is like saying Barry Bonds belongs in the HOF. You don’t put on huge amounts of muscle mass boxing it just doesn’t happen naturally.

[TonyGe]

You guys are so naive, the boxing world dupes fan knowledge. Is Jrock true 365? Or just WBC-CBP? Industry has confirmed it’s not the same protocol. Why didn’t Jrock state a message for anyone who fights him must do 120days like Canelo GGG 2 or “anyone who fights me must do 365 or no fight....even though I don’t do it.”

Williams issued this message May 19: Just a friendly reminder for my future opponents I will be requesting at least 90 DAYS RANDOM BLOOD TESTING BY @Vada_Testing won’t be cycling off on me now we’re gonna find out who’s really the best in the 154lbs div.

I'm not looking to critisize you. I've looked for the differences between 24/7 and the clean boxing program and came up with nothing. I'm not saying there isn't a difference I'm saying getting information on either program is damned hard. Info like how often are they tested. When are they tested. What drugs are tested for under each program. Are they the same drugs for both. Are they notified they are about to undergo a test. If so how far in advance etc. etc. I haven't come up with much.

[Curtis2]

You could never own me, you're not smart enough and too emotional. You're letting your love of Canelo and dislike for other fighters dictate your stance. Floyd or j rock have nothing to do with this subject. This is about Canelo. 1. He tested positive for clen. Clen helps with weight cutting, and stamina, 2 things canelo has notoriously struggled with. Coincidence? 2. Canelo tested positive when he was tested 3 months out from a fight for the first time and it also happened to be the first time they went to Mexico to test him. Coincidence? 3. We're expected to believe that the richest athlete in Mexican boxing somehow wasn't aware that tainted beef is an issue in his country and didn't take the necessary precautions to avoid this? He was oblivious to an issue that was brought to light as far back as 2011? Sure. 4. You suggesting that Canelo was somehow targeted by the wbc or vada is the most ridiculous accusation of all. The guy has been babied by the wbc since he was 20 and they've continued to bend over backwards for him. He is the most entitled boxer I've ever seen. If anything, there's more of an argument that's there's corruption in his favor when you consider the absurd scorecards he consistently receives, his light ped suspension, and the creation of joke belts such as the franchise title so that mandatories don't have to be enforced on him. 5. There is no good reason for him to have stopped vada 24/7. They made it a big press release last yr to say he enrolled in it, yet not a peep when he drops it? It's shameful.

The truth is, Team Canelo is smarter than all. They knew from the start, Clen/Meat contamination would be their alibi leading to no guilt appearance to the public.

[Mammoth]

Very good morning read, Breadman. Alvarez was never Kovalev's mandatory though. They picked him after they decided Browne's outside life could risk their fight.