Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Kovalev, Fury-Wallin, PEDs, More

[Thuglife Nelo]

damn, you get less intelligent every time you post. You're strictly focusing on j rock working with snac and saying there's a reason why fighters who work with snac aren't doing vada 24/7. How is that a valid point when hardly anyone is doing vada 24/7? So at the very least, if a fighter is insisting on testing 3 months out prior to a fight with him, that should be commended instead of used as a reason to suspect him. Because, testing 3 months out from every fight is better than what 99% of fighters are actually doing right now. You're going out of your way to defend someone who has actually tested positive yet used a built in excuse in Mexico with tainted meat, but going out of your way to implicate someone who has never tested positive and is asking for all of his opponents to test at least 3 months out from a fight. You make no sense.

Fook Jrock you idiot. Deflecting like an LDBc moron!

The conversation is about Breadman da hoe Edwards writing betch shet when he thinks fans don’t know about Conte. A damn hater would say all of SNAC athletes are cheats, but I don’t because I ain’t a hater like Edwards. I even had to correct LDBC members on this site because when Mikey was preppin for Spence they all said SNaC fighters were suspect. That included Jacobs, Andrade, Haney.... and guess who?! Jrock yes?

The point is to give benefit of doubt when facts are set in place. Canelo did not fail 2 tests. Edwards knows this. If you get arrested for being intoxicated your license is revoked and no idiot cop is going to test you again hours later to double check if there was alcohol in the system.

And regarding 365, is Jrock “true” 365? VADA “welcomed” GGG and Rolls 29 days into their program before their fight. Does that sound like 365 to you? VADA just said Usyk enrolled 20 days away from the fight. Does that sound like 365?

Breadman is a betch and anyone who backs him

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Fook Jrock you idiot. Deflecting like an LDBc moron!

The conversation is about Breadman da hoe Edwards writing betch shet when he thinks fans don’t know about Conte. A damn hater would say all of SNAC athletes are cheats, but I don’t because I ain’t a hater like Edwards. I even had to correct LDBC members on this site because when Mikey was preppin for Spence they all said SNaC fighters were suspect. That included Jacobs, Andrade, Haney.... and guess who?! Jrock yes?

The point is to give benefit of doubt when facts are set in place. Canelo did not fail 2 tests. Edwards knows this. If you get arrested for being intoxicated your license is revoked and no idiot cop is going to test you again hours later to double check if there was alcohol in the system.

And regarding 365, is Jrock “true” 365? VADA “welcomed” GGG and Rolls 29 days into their program before their fight. Does that sound like 365 to you? VADA just said Usyk enrolled 20 days away from the fight. Does that sound like 365?

Breadman is a betch and anyone who backs him

you're a sensitive canelo fan and facts clearly hurt your feelings. There's a greater chance that Canelo cheated on purpose than him eating tainted meat when you take everything into consideration. Spin it how you want but you're going out of you way to implicate fighters who never tested positive while whining that people suspect someone of cheating, who actually failed a ped test. No matter how much you rant, there will be a large population of fans, who will always view Canelo as a cheater. Deal with it.

[Thuglife Nelo]

you're a sensitive canelo fan and facts clearly hurt your feelings. There's a greater chance that Canelo cheated on purpose than him eating tainted meat when you take everything into consideration. Spin it how you want but you're going out of you way to implicate fighters who never tested positive while whining that people suspect someone of cheating, who actually failed a ped test. No matter how much you rant, there will be a large population of fans, who will always view Canelo as a cheater. Deal with it.

Why would I be a sensitive Canelo fan? I’m a realist. you approach all matters like a federal case. Easy breezy!

[aboutfkntime]

you're a sensitive canelo fan and facts clearly hurt your feelings. There's a greater chance that Canelo cheated on purpose than him eating tainted meat when you take everything into consideration. Spin it how you want but you're going out of you way to implicate fighters who never tested positive while whining that people suspect someone of cheating, who actually failed a ped test. No matter how much you rant, there will be a large population of fans, who will always view Canelo as a cheater. Deal with it.

Results below 1 ng/ml, like Canelo’s, are commonly caused by contaminated meat.

Dr. Daniel Eichner, head of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)-accredited SMRTL lab, agreed that Canelo’s samples were within the range expected from tainted meat, stating: "These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination."

Several UFC athletes have tested positive for Clenbuterol, and where those athletes have shown they were in a region with issues of contaminated meat, and where they had results consistent with contaminated meat, they received a finding of “no fault.”

A “no fault” finding essentially means the incident is not treated as a positive test at all, and no punishment is given. Brandon Moreno’s case, Li Jingliang’s case, Ning Guangyou’s case and others all ended with a finding of “no fault.” Absent any evidence that Canelo is lying, he would almost certainly have received the same result if the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) was handling his case.

Based on the available evidence, a competent drug testing authority would ask Canelo about his meat consumption habits, check that his answers fit with his test results, and slap a finding of “no fault” on the incident.

why are you always the dumbest cvnt in the room... ?

[ruedboy]

I'm not looking to critisize you. I've looked for the differences between 24/7 and the clean boxing program and came up with nothing. I'm not saying there isn't a difference I'm saying getting information on either program is damned hard. Info like how often are they tested. When are they tested. What drugs are tested for under each program. Are they the same drugs for both. Are they notified they are about to undergo a test. If so how far in advance etc. etc. I haven't come up with much.

The CBP is a joint venture between VADA and the WBC.
CBP tests between 5-7 boxers a month out of the 255 WBC boxers (top 5 WBC fighters in each weight class)
Due to lack of funds they do urine testing rather than blood testing.

[CaptainWalrus]

Nah I went to Conte’s gym and I saw Jrock doing SNAC commercials! Stay in your lane Bread!

Widdit, r u ok?

[TonyGe]

Incomplete. You’re not part of the WADA board for its sciences and Advisory. If there was absolutely no tolerance for Clenbuterol then WADA wouldn’t need to have advised world athletes about contamination nor would they have revised their 2019 protocol measures. It’s all about comprehension.

As a matter of fact, it surprises me that nobody in industry nor it’s fans realize that with WADA’s new code of conduct for Clenbuterol, they have finally acknowledged a THRESHOLD for contamination cases. Meaning, had this have happened to Canelo after it this new regulation was passed it wouldn’t have been news nor would VADA have needed to inform the promoters or teams.

That’s what industry haters of Canelo don’t want people to know. If people don’t understand what was just explained then it proves the point of comprehension vs denialism.

Industry haters of Canelo?? Please tell us who these sinister figures lurking in the shadows are.

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Why would I be a sensitive Canelo fan? I’m a realist. you approach all matters like a federal case. Easy breezy!

well I say you're sensitive because..... You are. You go on an explicit defensive rant against bread because you don't like some of what he says about Canelo. Meanwhile, I've been reading his mail bag for yrs since he was with boxing talk. He's always given Canelo props. I remember him being 1 of the only ones defending canelo when everyone said Canelo was ducking ggg and would get killed. He said that Canelo was going to be competitive with ggg and anyone who thought ggg would steamroll him were wrong. Even now, he speaks highly of his abilities and calls him a hall of famer and potential all time great. Yet, you only focus on the fact that he has honest opinions when it comes to his stance on ped use and entitlement. 2 things that should be an understable critique. There's just cause to have suspected Canelo of cheating (because he did test positive) and clearly Canelo is a super entitled fighter when you look at the treatment he gets from boxing organizations (especially the wbc) and judges.

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why are you always the dumbest cvnt in the room... ?

you really can't go a day without stalking me huh?? Hop off my nuts old man, Im already done embarrassing you and have moved on to embarrassing others. Stop trying to save face and maintain whatever pride you think you have left by commenting on at least 1 of my posts daily. You're not worth my attention to go back and forth as you are clearly too inferior to post a comment that makes 1 valid point and can only communicate via gifs.

[Jubei]

Respect to Breadman for exposing the ginger cheat and his gullible fangirl club, most of his fans here arent really his fans, just pathetic haters of other fighters who ride with the protected cashcow.