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  • ruedboy
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    #151
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    I just got around to viewing this. The financial numbers for full Olympic style testing was staggering. Thanks for the link. Much appreciated.
    No problem. Montero's OK compared to most YouTube "experts". :-)

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    • TonyGe
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      #152
      Originally posted by ruedboy
      No problem. Montero's OK compared to most YouTube "experts". :-)
      He does his homework apparently.

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      • The D3vil
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        #153
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        REFUSING/OBSTRUCTING a test... is WORSE !!

        in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test.....

        * you are immediately judged guilty
        * you are immediately stripped
        * you are immediately banned

        the guy killed a super-fight by refusing random blood tests back in 2010 when he was a 1200+ punch dynamo... citing a bunch of ridiculous excuses... and yet NONE of those silly excuses were even mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing... oh, and by that time he was a normal 450-550 punch fighter, like everyone else

        come on man, that is a HUGE red-flag... that is all I am saying







        it has nothing to do with " like ".....

        Canelo did not hook up with Alex Ariza at 32yo, and then suddenly DOUBLE his punch output while skipping through FOUR divisions

        I am absolutely calling bread biased... hanging Canelo from the highest tree... while giving the test-avoiding, punch-output doubling, Pacquiao... a total free pass... is not a balanced viewpoint

        the current topic, which I am sick of... is not Pacquiao, it is breads harsh viewpoint on Canelo... FACT: there are MANY red-flags, ALL of which should be obvious to bread...

        ... I will not post them, because I do not care for the PED debate, again... and do not wish to inflame the lunatics... but I will add a link to prove that those red-flags should be highly obvious to bread... post #255... https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...teward&page=26

        the 1200+ punches that Pac youthfully threw at Clottey... while looking fresh-as-a-daisy... before center-staging a full concert for his fans immediately afterwards... AFTER skipping through THREE divisions in 9 months... were ridiculous, AND ARE A HUGE RED FLAG to anyone with a clue... including bread
        Again.

        Those are YOUR standards.

        YOUR standards.

        Bread said he needs to see a test or evidence.

        You keep expecting him to go by YOUR standard of what's worst.

        The bottom line is, if Pacquiao did something, he was smart enough to never fail a test or get caught doing it.

        When you get hired by a publication or website to do your Mailbag, then YOU can choose to count dodging tests with the same standard as you do failing a test or getting caught doing it.

        But nobody's paying you to do that, mostly because you're opinions are shxt.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Jab jab boom
          on cool. I'll move on and kick rocks while you keep sucking ****s... Which you've admitted that you find "delicious" Game over.


          whatever you decide to do... just stop crying... m'kay ?


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            #155
            Originally posted by The D3vil
            Again.

            Those are YOUR standards.

            YOUR standards.

            Bread said he needs to see a test or evidence.

            You keep expecting him to go by YOUR standard of what's worst.

            The bottom line is, if Pacquiao did something, he was smart enough to never fail a test or get caught doing it.

            When you get hired by a publication or website to do your Mailbag, then YOU can choose to count dodging tests with the same standard as you do failing a test or getting caught doing it.

            But nobody's paying you to do that, mostly because you're opinions are shxt.


            I am expecting bread to use some common-sense

            of course, now I will need to post the pac-facts

            bread, is well-aware of the following information... no idea why he decided to ignore it

            FACT: nobody relevant is listening to him whining about Canelo... and nobody should if he cannot keep it real about Pac



            1)
            FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
            FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
            FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
            FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
            * are immediately judged guilty
            * you are stripped
            * you are banned




            2)
            Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

            then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

            come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


            3)
            FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

            the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

            and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

            FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

            it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

            Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


            4)
            immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

            Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

            immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

            and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

            what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

            Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

            you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

            Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

            LMAO

            5)
            a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

            it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?

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              #156
              Originally posted by The D3vil
              Again.

              Those are YOUR standards.

              YOUR standards.

              Bread said he needs to see a test or evidence.

              You keep expecting him to go by YOUR standard of what's worst.

              The bottom line is, if Pacquiao did something, he was smart enough to never fail a test or get caught doing it.

              When you get hired by a publication or website to do your Mailbag, then YOU can choose to count dodging tests with the same standard as you do failing a test or getting caught doing it.

              But nobody's paying you to do that, mostly because you're opinions are shxt.



              FACT: when Pacquiao flatly refused to undertake random blood testing... he gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses... which is absurd, because we needed one genuine reason

              the only reason why somebody would furnish 8 ridiculous excuses... is because they did not have 1 genuine reason

              so, which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses worked for you... ?

              serious question... lets find out how you roll, Mr Public Defender

              which one of the 8 RIDICULOUS excuses proved by Pacquiao did you accept... which pile of shlt worked for you ? LMAO

              by the way... the 8 ridiculous show-stopping excuses provided by Pac, IMMEDIATELY disappeared and were never mentioned ONCE when Manny finally agreed to testing...

              which pile of shlt did you accept as justification for killing a super-fight?... I DO expect an answer

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                #157
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                REFUSING/OBSTRUCTING a test... is WORSE !!

                in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test.....

                * you are immediately judged guilty
                * you are immediately stripped
                * you are immediately banned

                the guy killed a super-fight by refusing random blood tests back in 2010 when he was a 1200+ punch dynamo... citing a bunch of ridiculous excuses... and yet NONE of those silly excuses were even mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing... oh, and by that time he was a normal 450-550 punch fighter, like everyone else

                come on man, that is a HUGE red-flag... that is all I am saying







                it has nothing to do with " like ".....

                Canelo did not hook up with Alex Ariza at 32yo, and then suddenly DOUBLE his punch output while skipping through FOUR divisions

                I am absolutely calling bread biased... hanging Canelo from the highest tree... while giving the test-avoiding, punch-output doubling, Pacquiao... a total free pass... is not a balanced viewpoint

                the current topic, which I am sick of... is not Pacquiao, it is breads harsh viewpoint on Canelo... FACT: there are MANY red-flags, ALL of which should be obvious to bread...

                ... I will not post them, because I do not care for the PED debate, again... and do not wish to inflame the lunatics... but I will add a link to prove that those red-flags should be highly obvious to bread... post #255... https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...teward&page=26

                the 1200+ punches that Pac youthfully threw at Clottey... while looking fresh-as-a-daisy... before center-staging a full concert for his fans immediately afterwards... AFTER skipping through THREE divisions in 9 months... were ridiculous, AND ARE A HUGE RED FLAG to anyone with a clue... including bread
                Clottey didn't fight. All he did was take punches. Personally I have su****ions about both Mayweather and Pacquiao. There are red flags for both guys. Red flags don't mean they absolutely have been cheating but it's very su****ious.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  FACT: when Pacquiao flatly refused to undertake random blood testing... he gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses... which is absurd, because we needed one genuine reason

                  the only reason why somebody would furnish 8 ridiculous excuses... is because they did not have 1 genuine reason

                  so, which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses worked for you... ?

                  serious question... lets find out how you roll, Mr Public Defender

                  which one of the 8 RIDICULOUS excuses proved by Pacquiao did you accept... which pile of shlt worked for you ? LMAO

                  by the way... the 8 ridiculous show-stopping excuses provided by Pac, IMMEDIATELY disappeared and were never mentioned ONCE when Manny finally agreed to testing...

                  which pile of shlt did you accept as justification for killing a super-fight?... I DO expect an answer
                  Dude, you're either high, ******, or retxrded.

                  Which one is it?

                  I'm not here to relitigate the Floyd/Manny saga.

                  I'm not a stan or hater of either (unlike you).

                  Bread stated his standards that he uses to condemn fighters.

                  It's his consistent standard that he even used against the guy who knocked his guy out.

                  Get over it.

                  And yeah, lots of people listen to Breadman, which is why he has this article, his website, and is the trainer of a world champion boxer.

                  Its YOU nobody cares about, which is why you are just posting here and half the posters on here have you on ignore.

                  I think I'll join them

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by The D3vil
                    Dude, you're either high, ******, or retxrded.

                    Which one is it?

                    I'm not here to relitigate the Floyd/Manny saga.

                    I'm not a stan or hater of either (unlike you).

                    Bread stated his standards that he uses to condemn fighters.

                    It's his consistent standard that he even used against the guy who knocked his guy out.

                    Get over it.

                    And yeah, lots of people listen to Breadman, which is why he has this article, his website, and is the trainer of a world champion boxer.

                    Its YOU nobody cares about, which is why you are just posting here and half the posters on here have you on ignore.

                    I think I'll join them




                    it is not a consistent standard

                    refusing to test for 5 years is a red flag

                    in the amateurs, refusing to test ONCE... means that you are guilty... no red flag required, immediately stripped and banned

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by The D3vil
                      Dude, you're either high, ******, or retxrded.

                      Which one is it?

                      I'm not here to relitigate the Floyd/Manny saga.

                      I'm not a stan or hater of either (unlike you).

                      Bread stated his standards that he uses to condemn fighters.

                      It's his consistent standard that he even used against the guy who knocked his guy out.

                      Get over it.

                      And yeah, lots of people listen to Breadman, which is why he has this article, his website, and is the trainer of a world champion boxer.

                      Its YOU nobody cares about, which is why you are just posting here and half the posters on here have you on ignore.

                      I think I'll join them




                      why did Pacquiao kill a super-fight by refusing random blood tests?

                      that is a more than reasonable question man

                      which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

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