why didnt the lil g fight kovalev?

[TonyGe]

So you're not a Canelo fan but you're just a legit GGG hater. You're not a Canelo fan but hes lil G right?

You say I'm all over the place but all I did was use your own faulty logic. If you couldnt follow it how could you even follow yourself?

And then to lie about the actual events that happened

Canelo claims he wants to unify 160

Canelo and GGG were negotiating for a 3rd fight. GGG said I'm not fighting in Vegas where Canelo gets favorable score cards.

Canelo said no, the fight must be in Vegas. DAZN and GGG were fine with the fight at MSG.

Then negotiations stopped because Canelo isnt confident he can win outside vegas.

Then Canelo creates a fake stipulation that GGG needs a belt and he will fight him.

Canelo gives up the IBO

Then he sits out because DAZN gives him the ultimatum GGG or Kovalev.

Then Canelo drops the WBC belt and agrees to be its franchise champion.

Then Canelo wont fight GGG ever because GGG hurt his feelings.

Then the IBF mandates Canelo/Derevychanko. Canelo low balls Derevychanko who knows he can get more than 5.5 million against Canelo because of the IBF mandatory 35% purse split. Then Canelo let's the IBF strip him and pretends he feels bad.

Then the IBF mandates GGG and Derevychanko fight for the vacant IBF title.

So all you did was lie through you damn teeth.

So what belts does Canelo own now after he said he wants to unify 160?

And you claim GGG is ducking Charlo and Andrade but in the same damn breathe pretend like Canelo isnt?

Who did Canelo fight after GGG? Rocky fielding and Daniel Jacobs.

A mismatch to win a regular title at 168 to be a pretend 168 champ and a guy GGG already beat.

Now hes doing what? Fighting a big name fighter who literally almost retired his last fight. Lets not pretend Kovalev isnt cashing out.

Instead if fighting a nobody at 168 and someone GGG already beat why didnt he fight Charlo or Andrade huh?

He had more than enough time while GGG was away huh?

When Canelo was fighting at a championship level he had plenty of opportunities to fight Charlo and Andrade at JM and again at Middleweight. Despite being called out by them numerous times he never accepted the challenge. These Canelo fanatics have a very selective memory.

[Curt Henning]

You mean Ward's ducking of Golovkin that's well documented. I think you got mixed up again. There
was a meeting with HBO with Golovkin and Ward in which Ward declined to fight Golovkin. That's a fact and documented. After all Ward called out Golovkin not the other way around. Ward got his publicity that he badly needed at that time which is what this was all about.

n September that year, a clearly frustrated Ward gave an interview to FightHubTV and insisted on referring to Golovkin as “Little G”, lambasting the fighter and his camp for turning down an official offer to fight. He also complained that a double standard seemed to apply in terms of how their negotiating strategies were portrayed by the media: “Now, if the shoe was on the other foot, if I said ‘I’m going to 75, and I’m not gonna touch Kovalev, I’ll fight this guy and that guy, but if I fight Kovalev he’s gotta come to 170 or 172’ – can you imagine what the headlines would read? And if my trainer and my promoters were talking like they talk, but there was no action – can you imagine what the headlines would read?”

On October 8th, just three months after Rafael’s report, Loeffler gave an interview to boxingscene.com explaining why the official offer was rejected, saying it was received after their unification fight with David Lemieux had been signed and therefore too late. He also claimed their primary aim was to unify the 160lb division, but admitted they would move up to 168 for “mega events” against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. or Carl Froch. As for Ward, Triple G’s “stardom” had now surpassed the American, he argued, and therefore a 50-50 split between the pair no longer made sense.

Firstly, the fact the offer was sent after the Lemieux fight had been signed is not evidence that it was made in bad faith. In fact, it seems reasonable to take Ward’s team at face value when they say this would not have been a stumbling block, and that the proposed time frame (each fighting an interim bout before meeting in the first half of 2016) could have been made to work, since this format is the same deal that Ward’s camp later made with Sergey Kovalev’s people.

I’ve no doubt that Golovkin, the fighter, would step in the ring with anyone, anytime. His team, however, have to be more scrupulous in their management, and they simply preferred to hold out for a lower-risk, financially more rewarding fight against either Miguel Cotto or Canelo Alvarez. That is hardly a crime, but even granting that it was a sensible long-term business move on their part, it still runs contrary to their prior eagerness to “fight the best from 154 to 168”. Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.

Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.

Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.

Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.



LOL...keep thinking it was just about publicity bub...like how much pub did ward really get from it? the only people that knew about it were hardcore everyday boxing fans online...which there arent really that many

who has golovkin fought that would lead you to believe he would have fought ward at 168 in 2012????? NO ONE!!!! HES NEVER LEFT!!!!

your 2012 story has no merit or backbone...and golovkin was a nobody who brought no money or fans back in 2012!!!!! which is your excuse for why golovkin has fought no one!!! LOL

"ward dont bring no money or no fans doe"..."lara dont bring no money or no fans doe...they aint even on our radar doe"...LOL

clown

[TonyGe]

n September that year, a clearly frustrated Ward gave an interview to FightHubTV and insisted on referring to Golovkin as “Little G”, lambasting the fighter and his camp for turning down an official offer to fight. He also complained that a double standard seemed to apply in terms of how their negotiating strategies were portrayed by the media: “Now, if the shoe was on the other foot, if I said ‘I’m going to 75, and I’m not gonna touch Kovalev, I’ll fight this guy and that guy, but if I fight Kovalev he’s gotta come to 170 or 172’ – can you imagine what the headlines would read? And if my trainer and my promoters were talking like they talk, but there was no action – can you imagine what the headlines would read?”

On October 8th, just three months after Rafael’s report, Loeffler gave an interview to boxingscene.com explaining why the official offer was rejected, saying it was received after their unification fight with David Lemieux had been signed and therefore too late. He also claimed their primary aim was to unify the 160lb division, but admitted they would move up to 168 for “mega events” against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. or Carl Froch. As for Ward, Triple G’s “stardom” had now surpassed the American, he argued, and therefore a 50-50 split between the pair no longer made sense.

Firstly, the fact the offer was sent after the Lemieux fight had been signed is not evidence that it was made in bad faith. In fact, it seems reasonable to take Ward’s team at face value when they say this would not have been a stumbling block, and that the proposed time frame (each fighting an interim bout before meeting in the first half of 2016) could have been made to work, since this format is the same deal that Ward’s camp later made with Sergey Kovalev’s people.

I’ve no doubt that Golovkin, the fighter, would step in the ring with anyone, anytime. His team, however, have to be more scrupulous in their management, and they simply preferred to hold out for a lower-risk, financially more rewarding fight against either Miguel Cotto or Canelo Alvarez. That is hardly a crime, but even granting that it was a sensible long-term business move on their part, it still runs contrary to their prior eagerness to “fight the best from 154 to 168”. Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.

Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.

Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.

Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true.



LOL...keep thinking it was just about publicity bub...like how much pub did ward really get from it? the only people that knew about it were hardcore everyday boxing fans online...which there arent really that many

who has golovkin fought that would lead you to believe he would have fought ward at 168 in 2012????? NO ONE!!!! HES NEVER LEFT!!!!

your 2012 story has no merit or backbone...and golovkin was a nobody who brought no money or fans back in 2012!!!!! which is your excuse for why golovkin has fought no one!!! LOL

"ward dont bring no money or no fans doe"..."lara dont bring no money or no fans doe...they aint even on our radar doe"...LOL

clown

Yeah I saw that obvious BS article. The facts are these. Ward initiated the potential fight with Golovkin. Golovkin is in a lower weight class. Whether you like it or not at that time Golovkin was active Ward was not. Golovkin was the A side. Ward wanted the fight on his terms. He wanted a 50 50 purse split. That was never going to happen because Ward had no leverage. As much as I disagree with catchweights fights for titles he wouldn't fight Ward at 168 plus give up half the purse. Ward isn't ******. He must have known that Golovkin would be asking for a catchweight and a 50 50 split wasn't in the cards. It was a fishing trip by Ward and he came back empty handed. He got some publicity and kicked started his career. He made out OK from a PR standpoint so don't feel sorry for him.

[Curt Henning]

Yeah I saw that obvious BS article. The facts are these. Ward initiated the potential fight with Golovkin. Golovkin is in a lower weight class. Whether you like it or not at that time Golovkin was active Ward was not. Golovkin was the A side. Ward wanted the fight on his terms. He wanted a 50 50 purse split. That was never going to happen because Ward had no leverage. As much as I disagree with catchweights fights for titles he wouldn't fight Ward at 168 plus give up half the purse. Ward isn't ******. He must have known that Golovkin would be asking for a catchweight and a 50 50 split wasn't in the cards. It was a fishing trip by Ward and he came back empty handed. He got some publicity and kicked started his career. He made out OK from a PR standpoint so don't feel sorry for him.

lol@thinking some pub over golovkin "kickstarted" wards career lol...ward was an Olympic gold medalist and won the super 6 and was a p4p rated unbeaten fighter

he didn't need golovkins name for ANYTHING...just more delusional thinking on the part of the gggroupies

add "world class mindreader" to wards accomplishments huh? he must have assumed golovkin would ask for a CW huh? why? team lil g said over and over that 168 would be his best weight and pursued fights there....why would ward assume a catchweight? its just more delusional thinking on your part...lil g gets you all loopy

[Boxing Scene]

Golovkin is a B level fighter. He fought the fights of his life against Canelo but it wasn't near good enough.

He actually won the first fight by a LOT of rounds. So don't go there with this bull ****ing ****.