why didnt the lil g fight kovalev?

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  • Curt Henning
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    #41
    Originally posted by icha
    as skilled as ggg is, he just doesnt have it on him to push for more, to me he could have achieved a lot , but since he didnt have to, oh well....
    like ive said...they like to use hopkins as a barometer when its convenient..

    hopkins is a legend because of what he did after 160...if he quit after his 160 reign his resume and career would be picked to shreds and hed be deemed overrated

    because of what he did after it he became legendary and what we know and think of him today

    golovkin wont push that far...he wont even come close...he wont even try....yet somehow they think that by tying golovkin to hopkins at MW that golovkin can be as revered as hopkins

    no chance

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      #42
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      lets be real...the list of "why didn't golovkin fight these guys" is long

      theres lara...theres ward...why isn't he fighting charlo or Andrade after canelo told him to go fight someone worth a ****....and yet he chose the lowest hanging fruit in a guy that lost to the guy canelo just beat and he even beat himself

      but lets not talk about that

      we all know that back in 2015 ward approached golovkin about having a fight at 168 in 2016...instead the lil g chose to fight dom wade and then drag up a WW(after making fun of canelo for it) that year...talk about a banner year

      we heard boasts from team lil g about how 168 would be his best weight and they actively pursued fights at 168(unless it was ward...then they ran) against froch and chavez(guys they felt were easy targets)....

      we even heard boasts about how he was bullying kovalev in sparring...and knocking out cruisers in sparring

      so what happened?

      there was at time kov would have been the best name on his resume....

      why didn't the lil challenge himself?

      lemme guess....its cause there was bigger money fighting canelo right? LOL....money matters only matter when it benefits the lil g side of the argument...but we throw all that out of the way when it comes to other guys!
      Yea because I fight my friends all the time? Is this a dumb question ? They use to spar together and have been friends for years.

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      • Curt Henning
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        #43
        Originally posted by strykr619
        Yea because I fight my friends all the time? Is this a dumb question ? They use to spar together and have been friends for years.
        ok thats fair i guess

        so why doesnt he fight other 175lb champs? when canelo is fighting kov the gggroupies say "well notice hes going after kovalev because he feels hes easy. He wont fight the other 175 champs though".

        when canelo told him to fight a 160lb champ or someone worth a damn why did he go after the guy that lost to a guy that canelo just beat and he even beat....why didnt he go after charlo or andrade? lemme guess? its because it was an easier fight to make?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          ok thats fair i guess

          so why doesnt he fight other 175lb champs? when canelo is fighting kov the gggroupies say "well notice hes going after kovalev because he feels hes easy. He wont fight the other 175 champs though".

          when canelo told him to fight a 160lb champ or someone worth a damn why did he go after the guy that lost to a guy that canelo just beat and he even beat....why didnt he go after charlo or andrade? lemme guess? its because it was an easier fight to make?
          You Canelo fans are so dumb.

          Saying **** why didnt he do what fits my agenda today?

          Why did Canelo go after Jacobs when he could have fought Charlo or Andrade? Huh? If Canelo was so good why didnt he just move up right away to 175?

          Why did he fight Rocky fielding instead of a legit SMW champ?

          GGG already beat Jacob's and according to your logic it doesnt count.

          You keep saying **** like why doesnt GGG fight everyone instead of Canelo?

          Yeah, I wonder why Canelo wants GGG to fight everyone and him fight no one?

          All Canelo is doing is pulling a Mikey Garcia.

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          • Curt Henning
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            #45
            Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
            You Canelo fans are so dumb.

            Saying **** why didnt he do what fits my agenda today?

            Why did Canelo go after Jacobs when he could have fought Charlo or Andrade? Huh? If Canelo was so good why didnt he just move up right away to 175?

            Why did he fight Rocky fielding instead of a legit SMW champ?

            GGG already beat Jacob's and according to your logic it doesnt count.

            You keep saying **** like why doesnt GGG fight everyone instead of Canelo?

            Yeah, I wonder why Canelo wants GGG to fight everyone and him fight no one?

            All Canelo is doing is pulling a Mikey Garcia.
            im not even a canelo fan and you dont have a point..youre all over the place...

            canelo makes golovkin dance....he literally follows canelo like a puppy dog and thats why his resume is so weak and terrible without canelo

            you cant even follow my point....canelo told lil g to go get a belt...so he went for the guy that lost to jacobs...whom canelo and golovkin have already beaten

            what does beating the ibf guy prove? nothing....at least andrade and charlo would prove something

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              #46
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              ok thats fair i guess

              so why doesnt he fight other 175lb champs? when canelo is fighting kov the gggroupies say "well notice hes going after kovalev because he feels hes easy. He wont fight the other 175 champs though".

              when canelo told him to fight a 160lb champ or someone worth a damn why did he go after the guy that lost to a guy that canelo just beat and he even beat....why didnt he go after charlo or andrade? lemme guess? its because it was an easier fight to make?
              Answer is simple he knows his lane and stays in it. He is also aging and knows that money fights is where its at. Sorry but he was avoided from 2012-2016 and those were his prime years (wasted years IMO).

              Canelo at this point is going for the big bucks and knows that the ONLY way he will wash away the taint of failed drug tests and two controversial fights with GGG is fighting an aging yet still Champ Kovalev.

              Big risk but big reward.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Real King Kong
                He wishes more than anything that he was mixed so he could say he’s black. He’s just a suburban white bread run of the mill dweeb.
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                i am mixed...german and portuguese....lol

                but im no andre ward bruh
                I swear in one of those pics you posted, you looked mixed

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by strykr619
                  Answer is simple he knows his lane and stays in it. He is also aging and knows that money fights is where its at. Sorry but he was avoided from 2012-2016 and those were his prime years (wasted years IMO).

                  Canelo at this point is going for the big bucks and knows that the ONLY way he will wash away the taint of failed drug tests and two controversial fights with GGG is fighting an aging yet still Champ Kovalev.

                  Big risk but big reward.
                  maybe he was partly avoided....maybe he was partly mismanaged...it doesnt change the fact that his resume is very weak...especially when removing canelo from it....whos fault that is doesnt really matter....he wasted his prime....and thats why he should be trying to do better....youre okay with him "staying in his lane" but i doubt youd be ok with other guys doing the same

                  canelo at this point is a boss in boxing and does what he wants....he told golovkin to go screw because he can....

                  lol@ thinking canelo feels any "taint" pressure or whatever you want to call it....he could care less if you think his fights with golovkin are controversial...he has no L from it and won the 2nd one and did so in impressive fashion...canelo feels no pressure from you, a network or anyone really...thats a fallacy

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    im not even a canelo fan and you dont have a point..youre all over the place...

                    canelo makes golovkin dance....he literally follows canelo like a puppy dog and thats why his resume is so weak and terrible without canelo

                    you cant even follow my point....canelo told lil g to go get a belt...so he went for the guy that lost to jacobs...whom canelo and golovkin have already beaten

                    what does beating the ibf guy prove? nothing....at least andrade and charlo would prove something
                    So you're not a Canelo fan but you're just a legit GGG hater. You're not a Canelo fan but hes lil G right?

                    You say I'm all over the place but all I did was use your own faulty logic. If you couldnt follow it how could you even follow yourself?

                    And then to lie about the actual events that happened

                    Canelo claims he wants to unify 160

                    Canelo and GGG were negotiating for a 3rd fight. GGG said I'm not fighting in Vegas where Canelo gets favorable score cards.

                    Canelo said no, the fight must be in Vegas. DAZN and GGG were fine with the fight at MSG.

                    Then negotiations stopped because Canelo isnt confident he can win outside vegas.

                    Then Canelo creates a fake stipulation that GGG needs a belt and he will fight him.

                    Canelo gives up the IBO

                    Then he sits out because DAZN gives him the ultimatum GGG or Kovalev.

                    Then Canelo drops the WBC belt and agrees to be its franchise champion.

                    Then Canelo wont fight GGG ever because GGG hurt his feelings.

                    Then the IBF mandates Canelo/Derevychanko. Canelo low balls Derevychanko who knows he can get more than 5.5 million against Canelo because of the IBF mandatory 35% purse split. Then Canelo let's the IBF strip him and pretends he feels bad.

                    Then the IBF mandates GGG and Derevychanko fight for the vacant IBF title.

                    So all you did was lie through you damn teeth.

                    So what belts does Canelo own now after he said he wants to unify 160?

                    And you claim GGG is ducking Charlo and Andrade but in the same damn breathe pretend like Canelo isnt?

                    Who did Canelo fight after GGG? Rocky fielding and Daniel Jacobs.

                    A mismatch to win a regular title at 168 to be a pretend 168 champ and a guy GGG already beat.

                    Now hes doing what? Fighting a big name fighter who literally almost retired his last fight. Lets not pretend Kovalev isnt cashing out.

                    Instead if fighting a nobody at 168 and someone GGG already beat why didnt he fight Charlo or Andrade huh?

                    He had more than enough time while GGG was away huh?

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      no you dont have to be an idiot to believe it

                      there was a time lara called for a fight with him....and lara was the #1 guy at 154....and they never even considered it...in fact loeffler(it might have been abel i cant remember exactly) was asked about it and they said he didnt bring anything to the table as far as money and fans

                      Tom Loeffler ***8207;@TomLoeffler1 2m
                      MarkEOrtega he is not approved by HBO and never on our radar, he should be calling out Quillin, if he wins, he becomes interesting

                      lara also went as far as to prove that he wasnt "signed" to showtime and could go wherever....at the time lara would have been THE BEST name on golovkins resume....they never considered him

                      ward...well we all know about golovkins duck of ward....its been documented and beaten to death.....you want to say he was awaiting the canelo/cotto winner? ok...but he still didnt get that fight in 2016 and instead waited a whole nother year and fought dom wade and a WW(he made fun of canelo for khan and then turned around and did it for a money grab).....its fine if he wanted to wait for canelo.....he was chasing money....just dont ever be fooled by his "i want to unify it means so much" or think he ever cared about proving his greatness....fighting ward would have proved his greatness and his desire to make the best fights......he still leaves a ton to be desired in that aspect
                      You mean Ward's ducking of Golovkin that's well documented. I think you got mixed up again. There
                      was a meeting with HBO with Golovkin and Ward in which Ward declined to fight Golovkin. That's a fact and documented. After all Ward called out Golovkin not the other way around. Ward got his publicity that he badly needed at that time which is what this was all about.

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