Better fighter, Floyd or Pacquiao?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Manny fought elite level fighters at their best. Can't say the same for Floyd. The discussion should end right there, but we can also toss in how Manny was often/typically the smaller man in the ring. He pursued tougher challenges and even after being in tough fights still sought rematches with the fighters who fought him the hardest. He strived for KO victories instead of playing it safe (and dirty) fro 12 rounds by running, clinching and getting gift decisions.

This started out a pick-up game of basketball, you just turned it into a slam dunk contest... with only you playing.


Well done, sir.

But expect calls from their moms asking you to explain whytheir little darlins came home crying.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Sounds like you need to watch the fight, Floyd landed the better cleaner punches.

Most people dont know chit about boxing. Youre one of them.

Berbick beat Ali.

Jack Johnson beat Jim Jeffries.

Herrera beat Olivares.

Joey Maxim beat Ray Robinson.

Brkley beat Hearns.

Hearns beat Duran.

Ezzard Charles beat Joe Louis.

Primo Carnera "beat" Tommy Loughran

Muhammad Ali "beat" Ken Norton


I agree, Floyd won. But it was hardly a respectable performance. ANd considering how their styles match-up, along with Floyd's natural size advantage and superior physical condition, the fact that their fight was so close (not the right word, I'm sure) doesn't say much about Floyd.

Turn the tables, have Floyd rising to 140 to meet Pacquiao when he's at his prime and do you expect the same performance? Floyd would still ahve a lot of the same advantages - on paper, at least. Do you really expect the same out-come? Do you even expect Floyd to take the fight?


Yeah, neither do I.

[GhostofDempsey]

Berbick beat Ali.

Jack Johnson beat Jim Jeffries.

Herrera beat Olivares.

Joey Maxim beat Ray Robinson.

Brkley beat Hearns.

Hearns beat Duran.

Ezzard Charles beat Joe Louis.

Primo Carnera "beat" Tommy Loughran

Muhammad Ali "beat" Ken Norton


I agree, Floyd won. But it was hardly a respectable performance. ANd considering how their styles match-up, along with Floyd's natural size advantage and superior physical condition, the fact that their fight was so close (not the right word, I'm sure) doesn't say much about Floyd.

Turn the tables, have Floyd rising to 140 to meet Pacquiao when he's at his prime and do you expect the same performance? Floyd would still ahve a lot of the same advantages - on paper, at least. Do you really expect the same out-come? Do you even expect Floyd to take the fight?


Yeah, neither do I.

Great post. Anytime they say Floyd beat Manny so that makes him greater, I point to Duran/Hearns. Tommy KO’d Duran, yet Duran is remembered and held in much higher regard in the P4P ATG lists by sportswriters and fans alike.

[Pantera_]

When they first became champions I'd say Floyd. In their primes I'd say Manny. After their primes I'd say Floyd again.

[BoxingTrav]

It's not as parallel as you think. FLoyd-Zab-Baldomir were WWs. Raheem was a LW, Morales was a SFW, Manny was a FW that just recently moved to SFW and still trying to establish in there. You can't expect him to just jump to LW immediately for that.

Let me guess, you didn't know that one

Lol. Come on Bro. Is this your argument. So the same Pacquaio that jumped from 135-147 to face Oscar couldn't go from Sfw to face Raheem. Stop it. Like I said it I don't think it was a duck. I'm commenting on how the media covers Manny and Floyd

[Roadblock]

Great post. Anytime they say Floyd beat Manny so that makes him greater, I point to Duran/Hearns. Tommy KO’d Duran, yet Duran is remembered and held in much higher regard in the P4P ATG lists by sportswriters and fans alike.

Floyd beat everyone including Manny thats what makes him the better fighter, Manny been Koed twice with a bunch of defeats to guys Floyd would school .

Floyd beats Manny at any weight from 130-154, just a better boxer across the board, as fighters its not even close Floyd beats Mannys resume with ease while Manny couldnt beat all on Floyd resume.

I laugh at Manny fanboys, the guy got beat by Floyd and has been Koed more than once, but is better lol, thats some twisted delusion, but they that gullible they swallow all Mannys excuses.

[Curtis Harper]

I kinda wanna give you a pass on this one. I know how hard it is for you not to reflexively reply "Mayweather in 5" to every post. You've really come a long way, and should be allowed to vent every now and then.

But this post, even by your normal standards, is ******ed. Straight up, I think your baby food WAS paint chips.

Don't get me wrong. Sometimes you are very spot-on. But so is Queenie...

Mayweather never fought the Wiliams, Martinez, Pavlik, Golovkin...
At BEST Pacquiao was a Junior Welterweight. I am sure people with Mayweather's out-look on "fighting" would say he should have never left Lightweiht. Never the less, that guys that Mayweather beat (maybe), Pacquiao ****D.


Ask Oscar who he thinks was better... if he's coked out and dressed in drag, dial-up Miguel Cotto.

Again, I know praising mayweather is your thing. But maybe try to temped the groupie love a little?

As long as you don't roll out how far, weight wise, Pac has come to fight a bum like Margarito.......

Pac's best win wouldn't rank on May's list.
I'm almost 1000% positive May would have beaten everyone Pac has fought.
Nelo would have had to weigh less than DLH in order for Pac to fight him.
No version of Pac would beat May.
DLH hates May, so he will ''throw shade'' on him whenever possible.

If a person is so loyal to Pac or has that much hate for May, then there's no thread that can be enjoyed. Facts will be distorted and names will be called.

[Rusty Tromboni]

As long as you don't roll out how far, weight wise, Pac has come to fight a bum like Margarito.......

Pac's best win wouldn't rank on May's list.
I'm almost 1000% positive May would have beaten everyone Pac has fought.
Nelo would have had to weigh less than DLH in order for Pac to fight him.
No version of Pac would beat May.
DLH hates May, so he will ''throw shade'' on him whenever possible.

If a person is so loyal to Pac or has that much hate for May, then there's no thread that can be enjoyed. Facts will be distorted and names will be called.

Yes. It tends to be that bigger fighters do better against smaller fighters.

I bet Luis Ortiz could STOP everyone Mayweather fought. Does that really matter? A Heavyweight beating smaller men, does that mean anything?

Pacquiao CRUSHED many of the same opponents he shared w/ Mayweather.
Mayweather never took on larger opponents like Pacquiao did.

Again, why didn't we see Martinez, Williams, Pavlik, Golovkin all share the ring w/ May?
Pacquiao wouldn't ahve pased up that opportunity.

[Curtis Harper]

Yes. It tends to be that bigger fighters do better against smaller fighters.

I bet Luis Ortiz could STOP everyone Mayweather fought. Does that really matter? A Heavyweight beating smaller men, does that mean anything?

Pacquiao CRUSHED many of the same opponents he shared w/ Mayweather.
Mayweather never took on larger opponents like Pacquiao did.

Again, why didn't we see Martinez, Williams, Pavlik, Golovkin all share the ring w/ May?
Pacquiao wouldn't ahve pased up that opportunity.

I can pretty much guarantee you Ortiz would DIE trying to fight the guys May fought (how many lbs would he have to shed ?!?!?!?)

Derrrrrrrrrrrr...............

May beat Pac and would have easily beaten EVERYONE he fought. Pac would never have had the nuts to fight Nelo at any weight.

[GrandpaBernard]

One thing for certain Floyd did a number on these guys when he schooled manny

Now these guys coming from a place of weakness and desperation.

Reality outlasts any delusion man can have.

Floyd easily conquered manny in their fight. Only rounds 4 and 6 were clear manny rounds. Maybe one more round was in the air for manny

The fight itself was loaded with clear rounds.

10-2/9-3 fights are a dominant wins

Only a select weren’t surprised when Floyd started fast in this fight landing 2 or 3 rights str8 in manny’s face in the 1st round

manny realized ****, Floyd is that good and had a look of discouragement in the corner right after round 1

Now manny puts on a ****-eating grin whenever he sees Floyd