Better fighter, Floyd or Pacquiao?

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  • elfag
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    #41
    Originally posted by daggum
    pac beat floyd. watch the fight. he landed the better punches. isn't that boxing? i didnt know boxing was throwing out a grazing jab and receiving hard shots in return. if so i'm tbe

    Sounds like you need to watch the fight, Floyd landed the better cleaner punches.

    Most people dont know chit about boxing. Youre one of them.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #42
      Manny fought elite level fighters at their best. Can't say the same for Floyd. The discussion should end right there, but we can also toss in how Manny was often/typically the smaller man in the ring. He pursued tougher challenges and even after being in tough fights still sought rematches with the fighters who fought him the hardest. He strived for KO victories instead of playing it safe (and dirty) fro 12 rounds by running, clinching and getting gift decisions.

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      • KING MEAT
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        #43
        fighter, manny.
        boxer, floyd.

        what kind of 2013 question is this?

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        • TrueBox
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          #44
          Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
          That literally does not matter. He won he was the better fight. Plus...you dont have hindsight
          Boxing is not just a sport. It’s also a business. Just ask Floyd. Pac-Raheem didn’t make any business sense. The fans were
          clamoring for Pac-Morales 2.

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          • Curtis Harper
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            #45
            We already seen who the better fighter is.....May forced Pac to have a healthy arm operated on to save face. No version of Pac would have been able to deal with May.

            May also fought better competition than Pac.
            May spent a great deal solidifying his legacy with basically 1 good hand.

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            • Ca$ual Fan
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              #46
              Originally posted by BoxingTrav
              Lol. I said I'm not going to say he ducked Raheem. But I did draw the parallel to Floyd - Zab and Baldomir.
              It's not as parallel as you think. FLoyd-Zab-Baldomir were WWs. Raheem was a LW, Morales was a SFW, Manny was a FW that just recently moved to SFW and still trying to establish in there. You can't expect him to just jump to LW immediately for that.

              Let me guess, you didn't know that one

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              • Thraxox
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                #47
                Pacquiao fought HOF in their primes and at their best weight class. Floyd didn't do that and Manny accomplished more than Floyd.

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                • Sustanon
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict
                  Which of the two best fighters of their generation is better?

                  I'd say Floyd is the better fighter (As in, more skilled), while Pacquiao is the greater fighter (Accomplishments and resume).
                  PAC is greater by a large margin.
                  PAC in all his fights, came to Fight.
                  PAC beat their common opponents in more dominant fashion.
                  PAC makes floyd fight like a beitch... Floyd hugs PAC numerous times.. floydfans calls it a defense and PAC did it with 1 healthy arm!

                  Half of the boxing world thought PAC won the fight, its a giftwin from floyd's hometown venue.
                  Last edited by Sustanon; 09-21-2019, 07:12 AM.

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                  • Rusty Tromboni
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                    #49
                    O.P. summed it up well, Mayweather is more skilled and managed his career much more judiciously.

                    As a fighter and a professional Pacquiao was more "reckless". But his being tested more, regardless of the record it left him with, leaves us with a pretty good idea of his abilities and limitations.

                    Mayweather wouldn't even utter the words "Paul Williams" or "Sergio Martinez", let alone even cast his eyes upon the image of Golovkin.

                    nd his big wins came against faded "legends", who almost always had to satisfy some ridiculous precondition(s) Mayweather drew up ahead of the fight.

                    That being said, I do suspect that Pacquiao derived a lot of his success from a needle in the ass. Not that Mayweather didn't, but I don't believe Mayweather was the science experiment that guys like Pacquiao, Holyfield and Jones were. And Pacquiao struggled with boxers like Marquez. A great fighter (and another "juicer"), I concede, but not an ATG talent.

                    Mayweather for his part, benefited greatly from the modern era, where Boxers aren't fighters, but adults pillow-fighting. I dunno how he'd adjust to earlier eras of Boxing. I think he'd falter quite a bit, but I also think the skills he developed would allow him to generally prevail. Pacquiao, as much as I respect him and love his performances, would probably suffer more.

                    Ultimately, there's a case to be made for both men, and I don;t think they're that far apart. It's just that Mayweather can be compared to the very greatest of his style, while Pacquiao's talents and accomplishments are less spectacular when compared to the best to ply that style.

                    Originally posted by CoachMac34
                    Easy answer since they fought toe to toe. Floyd is more skilled and his last 20 something fights were against current or former champions.
                    Oh look, it's Tank trying to get on Floyd's good side!

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                    • Rusty Tromboni
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Curtis Harper
                      We already seen who the better fighter is.....May forced Pac to have a healthy arm operated on to save face. No version of Pac would have been able to deal with May.

                      May also fought better competition than Pac.
                      May spent a great deal solidifying his legacy with basically 1 good hand.
                      I kinda wanna give you a pass on this one. I know how hard it is for you not to reflexively reply "Mayweather in 5" to every post. You've really come a long way, and should be allowed to vent every now and then.

                      But this post, even by your normal standards, is ******ed. Straight up, I think your baby food WAS paint chips.

                      Don't get me wrong. Sometimes you are very spot-on. But so is Queenie...

                      Mayweather never fought the Wiliams, Martinez, Pavlik, Golovkin...
                      At BEST Pacquiao was a Junior Welterweight. I am sure people with Mayweather's out-look on "fighting" would say he should have never left Lightweiht. Never the less, that guys that Mayweather beat (maybe), Pacquiao ****D.


                      Ask Oscar who he thinks was better... if he's coked out and dressed in drag, dial-up Miguel Cotto.

                      Again, I know praising mayweather is your thing. But maybe try to temped the groupie love a little?
                      Last edited by Rusty Tromboni; 09-21-2019, 07:45 AM.

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