Otto Wallin would Be Wilders Best Win.

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wasnt it more of wilder not knowing how to box?

You’re going to set that guy off the rails correcting him , just saying he might cry wolf about being stalked and if you’re lucky he’ll make a weird thread of your life ,well a fictional one . Ha

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I didn’t say how Ortiz fought him it is his best win ,he was also lucky the bell rang. What does that have to with anything and Ortiz failing a physical where Charles Martin almost replaced him that night ? Ortiz slowed down much faster in the second fight and that’s because Because he got even older so your claim he fought well which wasn’t brought up but I’m the half wit ? , doesn’t have anything to do with anything .

Wallin is special because he’s one of only a handful of top southpaws . Wheather he’s above good isn’t relevant because in many peoples eyes he should have a win over Fury if you watched boxing long enough you know severe eye cuts get stopped .

I didn’t inflate anything I also didn’t make a thread Wallin defeats Wilder which is up now ,why don’t you heckle him because it won’t work with me but you know this already ,that’s your real reason why you came out of the fantasy section confiding in your weirdo mutual friend both seeking attention while some guys are riled up because the thread is 2 years old and I was right . Ha

Did you WATCH the second Ortiz Wilder fight? Ortiz did not slow down, he was caught in an exchange at the end of a round. He was winning that round and fighting very well. Watch the fight.

What? A win over Fury? Ridiculous thing to say... Eye cuts are judged by a doctor and each case is unique. Learn the sport, stop making things up! You twist things and are misinformed horribly. You were not right about anything which is why your thread was so horribly trashed. People basically called you an idiot.

You have no concept of reality.

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Scrotto Wallin would be all in with his balls in Wilder's face.

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Did you WATCH the second Ortiz Wilder fight? Ortiz did not slow down, he was caught in an exchange at the end of a round. He was winning that round and fighting very well. Watch the fight.

What? A win over Fury? Ridiculous thing to say... Eye cuts are judged by a doctor and each case is unique. Learn the sport, stop making things up! You twist things and are misinformed horribly. You were not right about anything which is why your thread was so horribly trashed. People basically called you an idiot.

You have no concept of reality.

Yep ,Ortiz threw fewer punchers had less head movement and Wilder looked terrible as though he trained a few weeks instead of a full camp which added to the Wilder performance up until Ortiz just stopped once and boom it was it . Ortiz has a very poor gas tank but that’s why he has medical issues ,it’s why Wilder gave him the rematch instead of fighting A.J .

I was right about Wallin ,and you even picked Breazeale to win over Wilder and you still went on a ridiculous rant about nothing . The idiots are who again ,did you really read the posts in the thread ? Ha


Everyone knows the cut was a terrible one ,in fact I can’t think of a worse one off hand not even the Vitali Klitschko had a worse one .


So again ,you are making a fool of yourself ,silly Billy .

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wasnt it more of wilder not knowing how to box?

I don't really know how much Wilder's lack of skills, the general level of skills in the division at this time, have a direct impact on Ortiz doing things like using his jab correctly, moving well on his feet, setting up at a proper distance and countering Wilder occasionally, etc. Let me guess, you do have this knowledge right? Without speculating you can tell us exactly how what Wilder lacks, empowered Tito right?

I am dealing with specifics here, not speculation.

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I don't really know how much Wilder's lack of skills, the general level of skills in the division at this time, have a direct impact on Ortiz doing things like using his jab correctly, moving well on his feet, setting up at a proper distance and countering Wilder occasionally, etc. Let me guess, you do have this knowledge right? Without speculating you can tell us exactly how what Wilder lacks, empowered Tito right?

I am dealing with specifics here, not speculation.

You should have just stopped at I don’t know . Ha

What are you speculating ?

This is the specifics .

Wilders lack of using constant jabs and inability to put together punches enables even average boxers to look good . This isn’t rocket science .

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Yep ,Ortiz threw fewer punchers had less head movement and Wilder looked terrible as though he trained a few weeks instead of a full camp which added to the Wilder performance up until Ortiz just stopped once and boom it was it . Ortiz has a very poor gas tank but that’s why he has medical issues ,it’s why Wilder gave him the rematch instead of fighting A.J .

I was right about Wallin ,and you even picked Breazeale to win over Wilder and you still went on a ridiculous rant about nothing . The idiots are who again ,did you really read the posts in the thread ? Ha


Everyone knows the cut was a terrible one ,in fact I can’t think of a worse one off hand not even the Vitali Klitschko had a worse one .


So again ,you are making a fool of yourself ,silly Billy .

Yeah of course... It has to be Wilder's condition, etc... Things that you speculate on and call facts. If it does not fit your innane narrative right? What an idiot you are.

I don't remember who I picked when Wilder fought breazeale. Does not matter. It is immaterial to your ridiculous assesment about Wallin and how you twist and create misinformation to try to be right when you are so obviously wrong and misinformed.

I don't think exposing your ******ity is making me look like a fool... Ha! I just had to do so as the stench of your BS was polluting the rest of the boards.

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You should have just stopped at I don’t know . Ha

What are you speculating ?

This is the specifics .

Wilders lack of using constant jabs and inability to put together punches enables even average boxers to look good . This isn’t rocket science .

Wilder has certain abilities and flaws. They are relatively consistent with the caveat that he has developed his jab, worked out some obvious defects... You lack the intellect to compare common opponents against Wilder. You will act like some overriding flaw made Wilder less effective, when in fact, Wilder carried these same flaws in every fight (with the caveat above). Then you use this speculation to show how your wrong analysis is right.

I don't hold that against you, as I do think you are in fact too ****** to understand how to compare things properly. You cannot highlight a consistent flaw with Wilder to draw aspersions against one opponent, when the same flaw is equally present for other opponents.

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Fury’s win over Wallin is aging like pure wine

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Wilder has certain abilities and flaws. They are relatively consistent with the caveat that he has developed his jab, worked out some obvious defects... You lack the intellect to compare common opponents against Wilder. You will act like some overriding flaw made Wilder less effective, when in fact, Wilder carried these same flaws in every fight (with the caveat above). Then you use this speculation to show how your wrong analysis is right.

I don't hold that against you, as I do think you are in fact too ****** to understand how to compare things properly. You cannot highlight a consistent flaw with Wilder to draw aspersions against one opponent, when the same flaw is equally present for other opponents.

Common opponents would Szpilka and Ortiz ?Ha

Both fights where he really struggled to take rounds against southpaws ,and as far as his jab he has gotten worse so what is speculation about that ? I don’t think you know what the word speculation means because it is Wilders flaws that are the problem more then who he’s fought ,the killers according to him .