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  • #81
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
    You also said Breazeale would KO Wilder
    He almost did if you really watched the fight where Wilder stumbles back on weak legs from not even a solid shot . Either guy was going down sooner then later .

    You know I also picked Wallin over Fury to right , then crickets when the fight could have been stopped in Wallins favor . Ha

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    Last edited by REDEEMER; 02-21-2021, 03:44 PM.

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    • #82
      Dunno if he'd be no1 but he'd be top 5 for sure. It just goes to show how ****ing ridiculously weak Wilders resume is for a 40+ fight veteran. His ONLY elite career win is Ortiz but even then Luis was old and given too much credit considering his actual accomplishments arent all that impressive. Other than that we are talking Breazele, Gerald Washington, an old Stiverne, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Molina, Arreola etc. The guy was one of the biggest paper tigers in HW history.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
        Dunno if he'd be no1 but he'd be top 5 for sure. It just goes to show how ****ing ridiculously weak Wilders resume is for a 40+ fight veteran. His ONLY elite career win is Ortiz but even then Luis was old and given too much credit considering his actual accomplishments arent all that impressive. Other than that we are talking Breazele, Gerald Washington, an old Stiverne, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Molina, Arreola etc. The guy was one of the biggest paper tigers in HW history.
        Wilder doesn’t like movers that’s why he lost the first half of the fight to Szpilka and Wallin is a far better puncher and tactical fighter . Not to mention Wallin isn’t all that much shorter at a near 6”6 .

        He’s poses more problems then Ortiz can for Wilder who is his best win and would prove a better southpaw then Szpilka or Ortiz ,I see a UD win for Wallin if they fought so I’m not even sure it’s a best win now today because I made this thread 2 years ago . It might actually be Wallins best win .

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        • #84
          Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
          Wilder has not fought a skilled guy over 6'5 and won ,

          Wallin brings size,speed and great ring IQ for 20 fight pro.

          Ortiz of 2017 was still a stationary target for Wilder he likes the pocket and slows by mid rounds.

          Wilder wouldn't be able to tire Wallin out like Fury did physically at his weight, he would really have to deck him.

          But excluding Wilder, Ortiz is the only challenge for big tall Wallin in his 20's. Ortiz is almost 50 and when he fought Wilder he was 48 , he doesn't present the other problems Wallin does ,size, speed ,punch volume and foot work all belong to Wallin and possibly chin ?


          Wallin would be wilders best win, he is Furys 3rd. I count Breazeale but hes slow ,he doesn't present speed and that's what cost him that fight ultimately besides getting over confident.
          What a dunce... An appropriate edit would be to erase the post completely... Your arbitrary categories are a laugh... "Wilder has not beat a guy over six five..." Wow! Lol. You might want to look at reach here toots...

          Wilder has not beat many top opponents, that does not imply, or suggest that beating Wallin means much of anything. You just want to prop Wallin up and twist everything around to do so. Who cares if Wallin is Fury's 3rd, or 4th, or 10nth win? what does it mean? Just as arbitrary as a win over a guy over six feet and a half...

          Wallin is a decent heavyweight... There is no special punching power, finesse, or anything else that suggests he presents a special problem for Wilder.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
            credibility isn't anything Redeemer concerns herself with
            Dude gets more and more ******. Its aggrevating. His posting makes me think of an intelligent 4 year old... "You know... Marciano was no good March... He never fought a heavyweight over 6 foot 5, or with a 13 inch shoe size!" and and... He didn't beat Moore because Moore staggered him! and and... everyone knows, if they fought ten more times, Moore would have won sometimes!

            i mean is this idiot for real?

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            • #86
              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
              What a dunce... An appropriate edit would be to erase the post completely... Your arbitrary categories are a laugh... "Wilder has not beat a guy over six five..." Wow! Lol. You might want to look at reach here toots...

              Wilder has not beat many top opponents, that does not imply, or suggest that beating Wallin means much of anything. You just want to prop Wallin up and twist everything around to do so. Who cares if Wallin is Fury's 3rd, or 4th, or 10nth win? what does it mean? Just as arbitrary as a win over a guy over six feet and a half...

              Wallin is a decent heavyweight... There is no special punching power, finesse, or anything else that suggests he presents a special problem for Wilder.
              Defeating Wallin would improve Wilders outlook on actually defeating prime opponents unlike Ortiz who is well past his.

              Try again, you’ll get it eventually and understand currently his best win was Ortiz ,a Win over Wallin also gets him more leverage against a title holder because Wallin is considered Furys most difficult fight to get through by most .

              Wallin has defeated Breazeale who is a top Wilder win, you would know that as well if you weren’t a silly Billy .

              Wilders struggles against southpaws would suggest Wallin would be a difficult fight ,you would know this if you didn’t hang out in fantasyland / the thunderdome and kept up with what is actually happening . Ha

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              • #87
                Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                Defeating Wallin would improve Wilders outlook on actually defeating prime opponents unlike Ortiz who is well past his.

                Try again, you’ll get it eventually and understand currently his best win was Ortiz ,a Win over Wallin also gets him more leverage against a title holder because Wallin is considered Furys most difficult fight to get through by most .

                Wallin has defeated Breazeale who is a top Wilder win, you would know that as well if you weren’t a silly Billy .

                Wilders struggles against southpaws would suggest Wallin would be a difficult fight ,you would know this if you didn’t hang out in fantasyland / the thunderdome and kept up with what is actually happening . Ha
                It is obvious to anyone but a half wit that Ortiz, particularly during the second fight, fought well. But you are a half wit...

                Wallin is not a special opponent... Hes a decent fighter, and in the heavyweight division there is always a chance... The thing is, if you WATCHED the Ortiz fight, the second fight you would see he did a lot of things very well. Specific things, that one can list. He was also doing very well until he was caught.

                My point is not to make excuses and say silly things like, "Ortiz would win next time" lol... My point is that Ortiz did not present like a fighter past it. He moved well, he scored with his shots, he kept a good distance.

                That is tangible. Wallen beating breazille is a notch... But you inflate this victory to ridiculous proportions.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                  It is obvious to anyone but a half wit that Ortiz, particularly during the second fight, fought well. But you are a half wit...

                  Wallin is not a special opponent... Hes a decent fighter, and in the heavyweight division there is always a chance... The thing is, if you WATCHED the Ortiz fight, the second fight you would see he did a lot of things very well. Specific things, that one can list. He was also doing very well until he was caught.

                  My point is not to make excuses and say silly things like, "Ortiz would win next time" lol... My point is that Ortiz did not present like a fighter past it. He moved well, he scored with his shots, he kept a good distance.

                  That is tangible. Wallen beating breazille is a notch... But you inflate this victory to ridiculous proportions.
                  I didn’t say how Ortiz fought him it is his best win ,he was also lucky the bell rang. What does that have to with anything and Ortiz failing a physical where Charles Martin almost replaced him that night ? Ortiz slowed down much faster in the second fight and that’s because Because he got even older so your claim he fought well which wasn’t brought up but I’m the half wit ? , doesn’t have anything to do with anything .

                  Wallin is special because he’s one of only a handful of top southpaws . Wheather he’s above good isn’t relevant because in many peoples eyes he should have a win over Fury if you watched boxing long enough you know severe eye cuts get stopped .

                  I didn’t inflate anything I also didn’t make a thread Wallin defeats Wilder which is up now ,why don’t you heckle him because it won’t work with me but you know this already ,that’s your real reason why you came out of the fantasy section confiding in your weirdo mutual friend both seeking attention while some guys are riled up because the thread is 2 years old and I was right . Ha
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 02-22-2021, 12:10 AM.

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                  • #89
                    wildes win over ortiz is prob the best hw win since frazier over ali. 2 undefeated greats going at it. who is the best? the guy who was ducked by everyone in boxing? or the guy who was ducked by joshua with his pathetic 100 million dollar lowball? wilder won...twice!

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                      It is obvious to anyone but a half wit that Ortiz, particularly during the second fight, fought well. But you are a half wit...

                      Wallin is not a special opponent... Hes a decent fighter, and in the heavyweight division there is always a chance... The thing is, if you WATCHED the Ortiz fight, the second fight you would see he did a lot of things very well. Specific things, that one can list. He was also doing very well until he was caught.

                      My point is not to make excuses and say silly things like, "Ortiz would win next time" lol... My point is that Ortiz did not present like a fighter past it. He moved well, he scored with his shots, he kept a good distance.

                      That is tangible. Wallen beating breazille is a notch... But you inflate this victory to ridiculous proportions.
                      wasnt it more of wilder not knowing how to box?

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