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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #21
    This isn’t true. Wladimir Klitschko was just in a different class. If he was in his prime now he would destroy every current heavyweight.

    Originally posted by Mister Wolf
    We have to take what we can get sir. This crop is better than the fighters during Wlad's reign.

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      #22
      No one could win more than three rounds against Ali and Foreman would brutally knock out every current heavyweight.

      Originally posted by Vlad_
      And yet 2-3 people from that list would put Ali or Foreman on the canvas.

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      • Thraxox
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        #23
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        No one could win more than three rounds against Ali and Foreman would brutally knock out every current heavyweight.
        lol. as bad as the hw is. ali and foreman gets koed

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          #24
          I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that two of the best heavyweights ever would lose to any of these *****ty heavyweights but I guess we can agree to disagree.

          Originally posted by Thraxox
          lol. as bad as the hw is. ali and foreman gets koed

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          • strykr619
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            #25
            Vitali Klitschko would of merked this whole division.

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              #26
              +10000000000

              Originally posted by strykr619
              vitali klitschko would of merked this whole division.

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              • Woodmanblue
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                #27
                It is not a golden generation based on talent. But if they all fought each other again and again plus any new worthy top 5 contenders, then it would go down as a golden time for the heavyweights. The problem is, they all believe they are worth so much. At the end, their bank balances will be secure. But their legacy will be nothing. It depends where your priorities lie. Fighters like (of the newer school) Ali, Foreman, Frasier fought each other to cemente their legacies. As have Tyson, Lewis and Hollyfield (of the newest school).

                These fighters will earn more than Dempsey, Johnson and Louis combined x 100. But we will remember them (the old school pioneers) more than these guys, with all the media and money that they have behind them. It's down to those men whether they prefer their bank balances or their legacies.

                This could be a golden generation, at the moment it is shaping up to be anything but.

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                • Thraxox
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that two of the best heavyweights ever would lose to any of these *****ty heavyweights but I guess we can agree to disagree.
                  Pure size and technique had evolved heavyweights. Fury and Joshua has size, and technique. Wilder is the only one who loses to Foreman and Ali and its because of how bad he is regardless of his size advantage.

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                    #29
                    Anthony Joshua would have no chance against George Foreman in his prime.

                    Foreman was a tank who could walk through anything and is arguably the hardest puncher in the history of boxing.

                    He would hit Joshua so hard, Joshua would have a seizure.

                    Originally posted by Thraxox
                    Pure size and technique had evolved heavyweights. Fury and Joshua has size, and technique. Wilder is the only one who loses to Foreman and Ali and its because of how bad he is regardless of his size advantage.

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                    • BLASTER1
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      Usually when the heavyweight division is this competitive, it’s because there’s a ton of talent.

                      The only other times in history that the division has been this competitive was in the 70s and 90s, two of the best eras in heavyweight history.

                      This is the first time I’ve ever seen the division be this competitive and it’s a bad thing.

                      There isn’t a dominant heavyweight champion and it isn’t because everyone is so good. It’s because no one is that good.

                      Fury has been overrated. Klitschko was old and Wilder can’t box.

                      As I just mentioned Wilder can’t box and if anyone goes 12 with him, he’ll lose.

                      Ortiz is too old. If he wasn’t old he would probably be the dominant champion.

                      Andy Ruiz is a fat guy.

                      Anthony Joshua is incredibly limited skill wise. He’s a slightly better boxer than Wilder but he’s basically the same thing. He’s a puncher and that’s it.

                      Pulev is too old as is Povetkin.

                      Whyte goes life and death against everyone with a pulse.

                      Parker is just a decent boxer without a punch

                      Kownacki can’t box very well

                      Miller is a fat kickboxer.

                      Who did I miss? I’ll explain why they suck too.
                      Man WTF are you talking about.
                      Every single one of the fighters you mentioned are top 10 in the division in the world.
                      You have to be very good to be in this bracket.
                      Stop hating on fighters cause in your opinion they don't stack up to your opinion of an ATG fighter.
                      We have a division that is really interesting at the moment with any of the top 4 being able to beat each other on their best night.
                      Stop hating and enjoy the boxing.
                      Isn't that why you are a fan after all?

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