Comments Thread For: Pedraza: Lomachenko Definitely Would Beat Gervonta Davis

[Ake-Dawg]

Pedraza says Loma is faster than Tank. True. We already knew that. Question is how was he able to survive that speed for 12? He landed some good shots, why can't Tank....with more power land shots too?

I would have liked to have heard more detail in his interview.

[Mindgames]

Triangle theories dont work in boxing. Thats why Hatton took Floyd 10 and Manny only two. I first worked this out watching Holyfield struggle with Alex Stewart twice and watching Tyson level the same guy in one. Stopping someone faster or looking better against them doesn't make you the superior fighter.

[Slowhand]

Honest question, was it vs Pedraza that Loma hurt his shoulder or the fight before? Might have something to do with Pedraza lasting 12. Or not.

[Mindgames]

Pedraza says Loma is faster than Tank. True. We already knew that. Question is how was he able to survive that speed for 12? He landed some good shots, why can't Tank....with more power land shots too?

I would have liked to have heard more detail in his interview.

Tank still faster than Pedraza, so he could land that power. But with the speed advantage gone against Loma, he might not have the opportunity to deliver the power. Therefore the most skilled guy takes over. Obviously though, the longer they wait, the more Loma will slow down. Tanks got time on hes side, and its accentuated at the lower weights.

[NachoMan]

I think you are if you believe in triangle theories and that's what your post suggests

I’ve said nothing about the outcome of a Lomachenko v Tank fight up till now. You’re trying to deflect your ******ity about dismissing Tank’s KO of Pedraza as meaningless by making a bs straw man argument now. I personally think that Loma outboxes Tank.

[DuckAdonis]

I said nothing about the outcome of a Lomachenko v Tank fight. You’re trying to deflect your ******ity about dismissing Tank’s KO of Pedraza as meaningless by making a bs straw man argument now. I personally think that Loma outboxes Tank.

It's not meaningless in terms of accomplishments, I said it means nothing when breaking down the Loma Vs Davis fight. It doesn't mean Davis is better and you seem to agree. So what are you arguing about?

[TarasMarcenko]

The scoop

Pedrazza accepted the Tank fight as a replacement on short notice and came down in weight and was drained. Ringside comments, before the fight even started, were that Pedrazza looks dead. The broadcasters during the fight were aghast that Pedrazza's normal strategy went out the window and he decided the entire 7 rounds to stay close in with Tank and just try to out box him. And with that it still took Tank seven rounds of that gift to get the knock out. Pedrazza hit Tank more in seven rounds than he hit Loma in 12 rounds if you're counting.

With Loma, Pedrazza had a full training camp and was back up to 135, his normal weight. Loma was three months off of torn rotator cuff surgery which normally takes a full year to heal and he didn't throw one right hook in the entire 12 rounds. One of his chief weapons.

Asked after the fight in the press conference he was asked who's better Tank or Loma. Pedrazza laughed and said 'you crazy, Loma of course.' Here he's basically asked again the same thing.

Loma has fought 15 fights with 60% being five star fighters. With Gary Russel, 24 and 0 being a three star fighter you know how good the competition for the others was. Tank, not close with quality of opponents. Pedrazza pretty much pointed that out by saying they've been protecting Davis.

Loma Tank
W L | W L
opponent 25 03 | 00 04
opponent 41 12 | debut
opponent 24 00 | debut
opponent 51 01 | 04 07
opponent 25 02 | 01 01
opponent 25 04 | 02 08
opponent 29 02 | 03 09
opponent 26 00 | debut 00
opponent 20 01 | 47 31
opponent 25 02 | 04 04
opponent 17 00 | 05 03
opponent 44 03 | 08 01
opponent 25 01 | 40 18
opponent 22 02 | 17 04

Loma: Six, Three Star fighters; Zero, Four Star; and Eight Five Star
Tank: Nine, Zero Star fighters; Four, One Star; Five, Three star; Zero, Four Star; and One, Five Star.

Perspective and context and clarity is everything. All else is chest puffing bull****.

[_Rexy_]

Honest question, was it vs Pedraza that Loma hurt his shoulder or the fight before? Might have something to do with Pedraza lasting 12. Or not.

Was the Linares fight (one before) the Pedrazza fight was Loma's first after surgery. He didn't throw a right hook the whole fight.

[PrBoxing88]

Pedraza fought a ****** fight against Tank, He actually got a shot of beating him if he uses his movement and angles.

[MrShakeAndBake]

Honest question, was it vs Pedraza that Loma hurt his shoulder or the fight before? Might have something to do with Pedraza lasting 12. Or not.

Pedraza fought Loma after his major shoulder surgery.