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  • buddyr
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    #81
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    Sure, when you can name one fighter than Duran beat aside from SRL that was better than Barrera, Marquez, Morales, Cotto, Delahoya, or Mosley.

    Pac>Duran. Not close.

    The end.
    You're hurting your own argument with that post. I'll give you Barerra because he still had more than enough left when Pac beat him. as for the rest

    DLH - completely washed up

    Mosley - 40 and washed up

    Morales - washed up and was shut out by Zahir Raheem

    Cotto - Suffered a damn near career ending beating at the hands of Margarito's illegal wraps and was clearly never the same fighter again.

    Marquez - Won the first 2 rounds against Marquez and from rounds 3-12 got his azz stomped out that even with a 10-6 round, Pac should have gotten no more than a draw. The rematch, many believed Marquez won that also but Pac got all the close rounds. The 3rd fight, Marquez without a doubt won that one, but Pac vs Mayweahte was gonna make too much money so that was clearly a robbery. The 4th fight, well... You know what happened..


    So even though the 2nd and 3rd Marquez fights were bs scoring, I'll even throw you that one. That's Marquez and Barerra. Since we're playing the name game, Name 2 guys Joe Fraizer beat that were better than Roy Jones and Hopkins. Therefore, Joe Calzaghe is better than Fraizer all time.

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    • kidbazooka
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      #82
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      its a sad reality that the pbc haters dont want to confront

      ill say this in fairness...most guys today dont have good resumes....it is what it is...but the standard thats kept to hold a guy to top 5 p4p status is garbage these days
      This exactly

      Realistically only canelo has a resume worthy of p4p So the list should read.....

      1.canelo
      2-10 Vacant

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      • Boxing Goat
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        #83
        Originally posted by just the facts
        Again, name one credible boxing historian/publication that rates Pac over Duran. You can't. There isn't any.
        And you can't name another fighter better than those aside from SRL! Lol!

        My point proven.

        Think what you want but there has been no expert consensus on the subject in a long time and chances are that many have changed their minds as Manny has accomplished a lot over the last ten years or so. I already proved why you're wrong, emphatically so f@ck off already.
        Last edited by Boxing Goat; 09-17-2019, 08:56 AM.

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        • alexnation
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          #84
          So can an absolute division champion be accused of ducking? He cleaned out his division and moved up. What's the problem? While I agree that he needs to start fighting top welters, you can't really blame him for making every super light fighter look amateurs. He did what he had to and is now aiming for unifying WW although it's going to be very hard looking at current situation

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            #85
            How many other current boxers have completely unified a division?

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #86
              Originally posted by buddyr
              You're hurting your own argument with that post. I'll give you Barerra because he still had more than enough left when Pac beat him. as for the rest

              DLH - completely washed up

              Mosley - 40 and washed up

              Morales - washed up and was shut out by Zahir Raheem

              Cotto - Suffered a damn near career ending beating at the hands of Margarito's illegal wraps and was clearly never the same fighter again.

              Marquez - Won the first 2 rounds against Marquez and from rounds 3-12 got his azz stomped out that even with a 10-6 round, Pac should have gotten no more than a draw. The rematch, many believed Marquez won that also but Pac got all the close rounds. The 3rd fight, Marquez without a doubt won that one, but Pac vs Mayweahte was gonna make too much money so that was clearly a robbery. The 4th fight, well... You know what happened..


              So even though the 2nd and 3rd Marquez fights were bs scoring, I'll even throw you that one. That's Marquez and Barerra. Since we're playing the name game, Name 2 guys Joe Fraizer beat that were better than Roy Jones and Hopkins. Therefore, Joe Calzaghe is better than Fraizer all time.
              And you just showed how ignorant that you are.

              Cong****.

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              • just the facts
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                #87
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                And you can't name another fighter better than those aside from SRL! Lol!

                My point proven.

                Think what you want but there has been no expert consensus on the subject in a long time and chances are that many have changed their minds as Manny has accomplished a lot over the last ten years or so. I already proved why you're wrong, emphatically so f@ck off already.
                One more time and one more time only, name just one credible boxing historian/publication that agrees with you. You can't. There isn't any. Do you think you're right and everyone else is wrong?

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                • Boxing Goat
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by just the facts
                  One more time and one more time only, name just one credible boxing historian/publication that agrees with you. You can't. There isn't any. Do you think you're right and everyone else is wrong?
                  I think YOU are wrong. YOU fail based on nostalgia. Pac is the greater fighter and it's not close. I more than proved it. End of story. If you want the final word, great! But this is the last message you get and you're still wrong, regardless.

                  Bye bye chump

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                    #89
                    his career isn't over tho, and he unified 140

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                    • just the facts
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      I think YOU are wrong. YOU fail based on nostalgia. Pac is the greater fighter and it's not close. I more than proved it. End of story. If you want the final word, great! But this is the last message you get and you're still wrong, regardless.

                      Bye bye chump
                      I could agree with you and we could both be wrong! Do you really believe you’re right and everyone else is wrong?

                      You posted that EVERYONE thinks PAC is better than Durán. Who (besides you) is EVERYONE?

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