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  • 493dart
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    #121
    If Ruiz can get inside and ruin wilders reach----easy night for Ruiz. the problem is andys head is easy to hit !!

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #122
      I wouldn't be so sure about wilders comment....a champ that has never been in any unification fight now wants us to believe he will do the undisputed....
      Always looking for soft targets..shortcut to greatness.... Unfortunately Ruiz won't be a champ come Dec 7 and trust me, we will hear another excuse from the other side of his mouth.

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      • Mindgames
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        #123
        Originally posted by Cutthroat
        I'm not sure what bouts you're referring to. Ortiz is a counter puncher, he naturally fights at a slow pace. He also possesses great great body work & his power is greater than Ruiz's and he's just as durable. His southpaw-counter style is also way more advanced than Ruiz's attack.

        If you want to bring up his HBP, then you have to acknowledge Wilder at 212lbs wasn't 100% either. Since then he's gained 10lbs, significantly more healthy.

        Ruiz is a sitting duck, he doesn't hit as hard as Ortiz or Stiverne, his power is more like Fury's. He didn't magically become some new fighter after the JP bout, good fighter but not able to beat a Wilder. Wilder is way more durable than AJ, much better cardio, much better defense, jab, etc.
        Well thats what i mean, Ortiz is a slower paced fighter, styles make fights and Wilder is very low output. Thats why he falls behind to guys not in hes league. I think Ruiz hits hard enough to hurt Wilder, but its hes combinations that really are dangerous. Hes a much better puncher than Fury. We cant just disregard hes destructiveness against AJ. Nobody else had done that, and Joshua had fought decent punchers.Standing at range is what Deontay wants you to do, Ruiz wont do that. See, the thing is, i have a feeling Wilder isnt any more durable than AJ, he has hes wobbles, and hes been flattened as an amatuer just like AJ. I thought Ruiz beat Parker, but its debatable. Styles make fights. I agree with you that Wilder is often too light, but he himself says he finds it hard to keep it on. He was even talking about dropping to cruiser not long ago. I really think Ruiz is nightmare style for Wilder, and really none of us have a clue how he'll deal with it because hes nothing like Ortiz or Fury. To me hes a much more demanding fight.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Mindgames
          Well thats what i mean, Ortiz is a slower paced fighter, styles make fights and Wilder is very low output. Thats why he falls behind to guys not in hes league. I think Ruiz hits hard enough to hurt Wilder, but its hes combinations that really are dangerous. Hes a much better puncher than Fury. We cant just disregard hes destructiveness against AJ. Nobody else had done that, and Joshua had fought decent punchers.Standing at range is what Deontay wants you to do, Ruiz wont do that. See, the thing is, i have a feeling Wilder isnt any more durable than AJ, he has hes wobbles, and hes been flattened as an amatuer just like AJ. I thought Ruiz beat Parker, but its debatable. Styles make fights. I agree with you that Wilder is often too light, but he himself says he finds it hard to keep it on. He was even talking about dropping to cruiser not long ago. I really think Ruiz is nightmare style for Wilder, and really none of us have a clue how he'll deal with it because hes nothing like Ortiz or Fury. To me hes a much more demanding fight.
          Ruiz's KO ratio is barely 65%, Furys 69%, Wilder has fought significantly bigger punchers, guys in the 90% range like Ortiz & Stiverne.

          AJ was down against Wlad, rocked by JP, Whyte & Pedvetkin is crazy overrated as seen recently vs Hughie.


          If you're going to give Wilder problems you need counter punching, head movement like Szpilka to make him miss, reach, etc. Ruiz doesn't posses any of that. He's easy to hit, everyone hits him, hel'd end up like Brezeale

          Against Stiverne 1 Wilder threw 600+punches, I don't believe Ruiz has ever come close, he only threw 400 against JP & faded that bout.
          Last edited by Cutthroat; 09-15-2019, 01:39 PM.

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          • Mindgames
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            #125
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            Ruiz's KO ratio is barely 65%, Furys 69%, Wilder has fought significantly bigger punchers, guys in the 90% range like Ortiz & Stiverne.

            AJ was down against Wlad, rocked by JP, Whyte & Pedvetkin is crazy overrated as seen recently vs Hughie.


            If you're going to give Wilder problems you need counter punching, head movement like Szpilka to make him miss, reach, etc. Ruiz doesn't posses any of that. He's easy to hit, everyone hits him, hel'd end up like Brezeale

            Against Stiverne 1 Wilder threw 600+punches, I don't believe Ruiz has ever come close, he only threw 400 against JP & faded that bout.
            Stiverne was awful, beat Arreola, got stopped by a complete unknown before that fight and looked like a punch bag. Fury isnt a big puncher, and he doesn't go for the kill either. Stiverne was much slower than Ruiz, and lacked the durability. Ortiz as i said before, was advanced in age and couldn't sustain pressure for long because of poor recovery. Anyone could be rocked by Wlad, who according to Steward was the most devastating heavyweight puncher hed seen. I dont remember AJ being rocked by Parker, Whyte has a decent left hook but didnt floor him. Whatever you say about Povetkin, he can punch. Fury is hard to stop despite being awful to watch. You cant compare Breazele, slow as molasses, to Ruiz in any way. Hes fought big heavies who can punch, whatever you say about AJ he hits hard, Ruiz showed a chin, and has a good pace, good body work and has courage. Wilder has never fought a guy like that. Wilder looks disorganised under fire, Ruiz can hurt him and throw follow up shots in combos. Theres nothing to suggest Wilder can stop him in one on eithers record. Anyone with any kind of class has took Wilder rounds. Ruiz aint getting blown out. Wilder went late with guys like Molina for goodness sake. One round against Ruiz is fantasy.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Mindgames
              Stiverne was awful, beat Arreola, got stopped by a complete unknown before that fight and looked like a punch bag. Fury isnt a big puncher, and he doesn't go for the kill either. Stiverne was much slower than Ruiz, and lacked the durability. Ortiz as i said before, was advanced in age and couldn't sustain pressure for long because of poor recovery. Anyone could be rocked by Wlad, who according to Steward was the most devastating heavyweight puncher hed seen. I dont remember AJ being rocked by Parker, Whyte has a decent left hook but didnt floor him. Whatever you say about Povetkin, he can punch. Fury is hard to stop despite being awful to watch. You cant compare Breazele, slow as molasses, to Ruiz in any way. Hes fought big heavies who can punch, whatever you say about AJ he hits hard, Ruiz showed a chin, and has a good pace, good body work and has courage. Wilder has never fought a guy like that. Wilder looks disorganised under fire, Ruiz can hurt him and throw follow up shots in combos. Theres nothing to suggest Wilder can stop him in one on eithers record. Anyone with any kind of class has took Wilder rounds. Ruiz aint getting blown out. Wilder went late with guys like Molina for goodness sake. One round against Ruiz is fantasy.
              Stiverne had a better resume than Ruiz pre-AJ lol
              His 1 loss was a terrible early stoppage where he was still on his feet fighting. He's also just as durable as Ruiz.

              If Fury isn't a big puncher what does that make Ruiz? Practically the same KO ratio.

              You talk as if Ruiz is some cardio god, in reality he gasses himself! Ortiz was being broken down by massive shots by an ATG puncher that's why he faded.

              Brezeale-Ruiz are the same as in they both lack head movement. Ruiz is one of the easiest guys to hit, EVERYONE hits him.

              And 2015 Wilder isn't 2019 Wilder. He's done all his learning in the pros, most these amateur guys like a Usyk for example do most their developing in the pros & buy the time they get there they've fulfilled most of their potential, not Wilder.

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              • just the facts
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                #127
                I like Ruiz and respect the hell out of the way he fought vs Joshua but he's extremely easy to hit and vs Wilder that's a very bad thing.

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                • CubanGuyNYC
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                  #128
                  Ruiz is a good heavyweight — good skills, deceptive speed, good power and good chin. I would favor him over Deontay except for one thing: that lights out Wilder power. There’s something they used to say about Mike Tyson that applies equally well to Wilder, “Twelve rounds is a long way to go without getting caught.” For this reason, I favor Deontay slightly. I can see Andy doing well until he gets put to sleep by a haymaker.

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                  • champion4ever
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                    #129
                    We already know that! Styles makes fights and Wilder knows how to fight from a distance while backing up. Joshua does not. Deontay could land a long range right cross on Ruiz' chin and end it with one punch.

                    While Joshua on the other hand has to get closer and back Ruiz up. He fights better at short range where he can land his own offensive combination of body punches, hooks and uppercuts to wear Andy down.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by 493dart
                      If Ruiz can get inside and ruin wilders reach----easy night for Ruiz. the problem is andys head is easy to hit !!
                      The only problem with that is Andy Ruiz is not a short range fighter who likes to collapse the pocket on the inside. He is mid range fighter.

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