Why is Shawn Porter a welterweight champion?

[Ca$ual Fan]

Only champ that needs full scrutiny and questions is jermall charlo. Got slapped about big time by korobov only to get gifted the win in a massive robbery and then then out of the blue he is just given a world title without even having to fight for it.

Infact its not Charlo that's the problem there its the dodgy as hell WBC. There has never been a good excuse for when they gave tank a title after another fighter won it in a different fight

Why is Jermall Charlo a middleweight champion?

I agree with these notions

[ruedboy]

Thurman vs Porter was a great fight. Thurman won a close decision in a world class boxing match.

[BoloShot]

I'm ****** and you're defending old Paulie Malignaggi, old Andre Berto, and Devon Alexander as "good" welterweight wins.

Yeah, I think the rest of the commenters can realize whose ******

Nah, I don't think anyone really agrees with your dumb ass. Both Paulie and Berto came off from good wins, Paulie against Zab Judah and Berto against Victor Ortiz. They weren't totally shot to bits at that point, they were still at world level. Regardless of the fact that they're not Porter's best wins, they're good. Alexander was a good fighter too, you look so dumb. Own up to the fact you're sorely wrong.

[BoloShot]

To be fair hes got one of the best resumes in the division. His only losses were real close decisions.

Exactly, he's a top class fighter and this chump is trying to discredit all the good wins I pointed out that destroy his point.

[MDPopescu]

Maybe I imagined that he beat welterweight champion devon alexander.

... which he did...

[hmc87]

Nah, I don't think anyone really agrees with your dumb ass. Both Paulie and Berto came off from good wins, Paulie against Zab Judah and Berto against Victor Ortiz. They weren't totally shot to bits at that point, they were still at world level. Regardless of the fact that they're not Porter's best wins, they're good. Alexander was a good fighter too, you look so dumb. Own up to the fact you're sorely wrong.

You are a real bad fan lol

Zab Judah has been irrelevant since 2010 let alone in 2013 or 2014.
Victor Ortiz has never been the same since Marcos Maidana almost 20 years ago. Yet here you are anointing Porter's wins over these guys (directly or indirectly) as "quality". Let's examine. . .

And I'll make it simple for you since you are...simple...

Alexander, Ortiz, Judah, Berto, and Paulie (the fighters you're defending currently) all fought during Golden WW era of Floyd, Manny, Shane, Cotto, and Bradley.

Floyd and Manny sit at the top as they defeated every other WW and combined have 2 wins over Cotto, 3 wins over Bradley, and 2 wins over Mosley. Moments of Floyd-Cotto, Floyd-Mosley, and Manny-Bradley 2 were competitive otherwise the fights were one sided.

So we've established a tier system here:

Top (A/A-/B+): Manny, Floyd

Middle (B+/B/B-): Cotto, Mosley, and Bradley

Contender (B-, C+, C, C-): Judah, Berto, Ortiz, Paulie, Alexander

Of the list you provided...Judah, Paulie, Berto, Ortiz, and Alexander...versus Top AND Middle guys...they were a combined 0-6 with 3 TKO defeats and 1 TD defeat (Floyd over Judah, Ortiz, Berto w/ 1 TKO) and (Cotto over Paulie and Judah by TKO) and (Bradley wide TD over Alexander who literally screamed and quit). Alexander and Paulie suffered their 1ST loss, Judah his 2nd and 3rd, and Berto and Ortiz were never good.

The Alexander that fought Bradley (way back in 2011) was undefeated. This fight was essentially for lineal JWW crown. This was the best version of Devon Alexander.

The Judah (2007) and Paulie (2006) that fought Cotto were much better versions than those that fought each other and Shawn Porter in 2013 and 2014.

Against Cotto Paulie was undefeated and suffered his 1st defeat, a stoppage. This undefeated version of Paulie (2006) was far better than the 2014 version Shawn fought. Paulie had 5 defeats by that point and was coming off a win over 8 defeat Judah...stunning!

Against Cotto Judah (2007) was trying to rebound from Floyd defeat and stay relevant in the WW class. Cotto won via by stoppage. This was NOT the best version of Judah but certainly a much better version than his 2013 fight against Paulie...which you suggest made Paulie a legitimate opponent.

I don't even have to get in to Berto or Ortiz. Neither of them ever won an important fight in their entire career.




The takeaway is this - in their primes none of Judah, Paulie, Alexander, Berto, or Ortiz could beat a Top or Middle guy. None of them. Ever. So they were NEVER "good wins".

The 2013 and 2014 versions that competed or directly fought Porter are nearly a decade past those primes...and their PRIMES were never more than prospect and later contender status. So how does that make them "good wins" in 2013-2014?

Hint: it doesn't.

Ether.

[Mister Wolf]

One of the sloppiest most unappealing fighter in this decade. There isnt a fight he has been in that isnt full of clinching with the ref being forced to intervene every 5-10 seconds. Him leading with the top of his head causing headbutts accidentally on purpose.

[Split Decision]

... which he did...

yes....he...did...good...post

[P4Pdunny]

He's earned it in my view

[bigjavi973]

He’s never defeated a welterweight champion. In fact, both welterweight champions he fought kicked his ass.

Technically he was the silver champ so he was "in line" to fight for the title once it was made vacant etc.