Why do we pretend Andy Ruiz is better than Schwarz or Wallin?

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  • Curtis Harper
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    #61
    Originally posted by just the facts
    That's the problem here. Posters continually create totally ignorant posts just to take a shot at certain fans of fighters.
    Some fans beg for it, though.

    ''Horn beat Pac fair and square''

    Just to name one group of fans.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #62
      I'd have considered Andy above those guys previous to the AJ win. Those other two guys are far too unproven still. Regardless of if you think Andy beat Joey P or not he was pretty neck & neck with him which is 5x better than they've both done combined.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
        Do we, though?


        He's better at letting his hands go. And I was impressed how he hung in there for so long.

        But really, the fact that he was fighting joshua (that joshua's camp was willing to sign him) pretty much defines his place. That's not flattering, sorry, but Joshua has been so protected it's a travesty.
        You just dashed Wilders resume with that then, considering they offered Ortiz 7 mil and he admitted his team f'd up not taking it. That is Wilders only win not an embarrasment to to mention when talking about credible opponents but since Joshua camp was willing to sign him then by your logic....

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          #64
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Because he should have got the win against Joseph Parker? And because he knocked out Anthony Joshua to win 3 championship belts?

          What belts do Schwarz and Wallin have? Besides the ones that hold up their pants?
          Where is this lie from that he definitely beat Parker?

          It was a close fight that could’ve gone wither way. I thought Parker did enough, like many others did. Ruiz himself said he didn’t do enough in that fight.

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          • Rusty Tromboni
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            #65
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            I'd have considered Andy above those guys previous to the AJ win. Those other two guys are far too unproven still. Regardless of if you think Andy beat Joey P or not he was pretty neck & neck with him which is 5x better than they've both done combined.
            His hands and durability make him dangerous. Joshua is overrated, but he really is too much for most opponents. Ruiz didn't upset him a la Lewis-Rahman, he dug deep and out-fought him.

            I dunno if that necessarily makes him better than the others. But he was better prepared for fighting someone like Joshua.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
              I dunno if that necessarily makes him better than the others.
              Have you watched these other guys fight? Go watch a couple of their fights (minus the Fury one) if not & then go look up a couple recent non-Joshua/Joey P fights with Andy. You'll see the pedigree that Andy has that these others cats dont got.

              They definitely arent better than Andy. Andy would be a -1000 or better favorite over either of them pre-Joshua fight & pre-either of them getting butt f#cked by Fury. And Wallin IS gonna get butt f#cked by Fury just wait n see. Idk about Andy beating Fury, but he wouldnt get butt f#cked like these two will have been come Sunday morning.

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