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  • BangEM
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    #41
    Originally posted by deathofaclown
    I wonder how cagey AJ is going to try and be. He already become a more cautious boxer after the Wlad fight and now he’s been knocked out..

    I think if he’s TOO cautious, it’ll actually work against him. He is not a great boxer, he’s not going to completely comfortably outbox anyone in a chess game, and he hasn’t got the movement and boxing skills of someone like Fury and stay away all night, so there’s going to be times where he still has to engage.

    I think if he’s too cautious, Ruiz will just go right at him knowing he can hurt him. I think AJ has to walk a very fine line between trying to use his reach and jab, but still be aggressive when he can be.

    I’ve always said this rematch is going to be about mentality more than ability. How AJ is going to be in the ring now he’s been stopped. He said in an interview with Frampton just before the Ruiz that if he had another fight like the Wlad fight, he’d retire, which says to me he isn’t really cut out of wars.

    As for Ruiz, will he still have that desire now he’s world champ and had that win?
    This is the type of dumb hate/lies I keep alluding to. When was he knocked out in the Ruiz fight? Do you even know anything about boxing?

    Oh, he's not going to outbox anyone with boxing skills, yet he outboxed Joseph Parker pretty easily/comfortably.

    The guy won a silver medal at the world championships and an olympic gold medal, something Fury never achieved in his career, yet he has no boxing skills. How did he win both? By plodding against the most skilful boxers in the world, no? Pathetic haters/liars are the worst.

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    • SchoolTheseCats
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      #42
      Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
      I said he was out boxing him early and specifically gave the example of AJ walking Ruiz onto a shot and knocking him down. I didnt say he was winning any particular round, you just jumped the gun..

      You know it is possible to outbox someone even if the fight is cagey/ competitive
      Bro you really trying reach lol it’s ok he actually didn’t walk Ruiz into the shot, Ruiz got inside tried to tie up aj by putting hands on aj head to pull him down aj hands was free and pulled back hit him with a 1-2 combo that was short and on button... even in that instance you specifically mention aj gave up position and let the slower feet guy get inside just so happen Ruiz failed at trying to tie him up and we know what happen after that

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      • LetOutTheCage
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        #43
        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        I wonder how cagey AJ is going to try and be. He already become a more cautious boxer after the Wlad fight and now he’s been knocked out..

        I think if he’s TOO cautious, it’ll actually work against him. He is not a great boxer, he’s not going to completely comfortably outbox anyone in a chess game, and he hasn’t got the movement and boxing skills of someone like Fury and stay away all night, so there’s going to be times where he still has to engage.

        I think if he’s too cautious, Ruiz will just go right at him knowing he can hurt him. I think AJ has to walk a very fine line between trying to use his reach and jab, but still be aggressive when he can be.

        I’ve always said this rematch is going to be about mentality more than ability. How AJ is going to be in the ring now he’s been stopped. He said in an interview with Frampton just before the Ruiz that if he had another fight like the Wlad fight, he’d retire, which says to me he isn’t really cut out of wars.

        As for Ruiz, will he still have that desire now he’s world champ and had that win?
        Yeah if he's too cagey Ruiz will walk through him, he needs to hit Ruiz hard early to gain his respect

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        • LetOutTheCage
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          #44
          Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
          Bro you really trying reach lol it’s ok he actually didn’t walk Ruiz into the shot, Ruiz got inside tried to tie up aj by putting hands on aj head to pull him down aj hands was free and pulled back hit him with a 1-2 combo that was short and on button... even in that instance you specifically mention aj gave up position and let the slower feet guy get inside just so happen Ruiz failed at trying to tie him up and we know what happen after that
          What I'm trying to do is educate an ignorant biased post, you.

          Here let me make it simple for you:
          https://********/sW5gcxiLUjg
          First 2 rounds, Joshua dictated the pace, dictated the exchanges, landed more shots and crucially landed the far more eye-catching shots. As I said you can have a cagey round or 2 but still have one boxer outboxing the other.

          Ruiz clinched then was looking to throw after releasing the clinch, Joshua hit him with an uppercut followed by a hook. Yes he walked into that shot, he wasnt prepared his stance was all wrong and he wasnt protecting himself. Joshua was sharper in that exchange and punished his mistake

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          • Sun_Tzu
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            #45
            Originally posted by pugil1st
            How do you see the fight being boring? Ruiz comes forward and throws fast combos. If he gets KO'd then that means Josh probably worked a good game plan with counter punches and traps.

            I said there is a possibility of a late KO or stoppage but I have a feeling AJ will just Jab and throw an occasional 1-2 for twelve rounds. I think he will shy away from trading with Ruiz. He can keep him on the outside and implement a simple game plan and win. Ive only seen Andy fight a few times but it seems to me like he waits for a clear opening to counter rather than a pick and shoot kind of technique. If Joshua doesn't give him the openings Andy will have to take chances he isn't naturally inclined to take. If he starts taking those chances it will probably be later in the fight hence me saying possible late stoppage.

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            • OldTerry
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              #46
              Originally posted by andocom
              You did see him drop Ruiz tho huh?
              Can't help but remind you that after being dropped in the third round Ruiz proceeded to put Joshua down twice. AJ's only hope is to stick and jab and hope for a KO opening. I'm sure he won't want to engage in any close up battles with Ruiz.

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              • OldTerry
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                #47
                Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                That's because ur clueless, AJ walking Ruiz onto a shot and dropping him isnt out-boxing now? lol
                Do you think Ruiz is going to let that happen again? Joshua learned from the first fight but so did Ruiz. One thing to look for in the rematch is to see if AJ has actually regained his confidence. If he hasn't then he's in for a long night (or maybe a short one).

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                • OldTerry
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  He has to expose Ruiz’s weaknesses? What is he going to do, bring a meatball sandwich into the ring?
                  Pretty good!

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                  • OldTerry
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                    What I'm trying to do is educate an ignorant biased post, you.

                    Here let me make it simple for you:
                    https://********/sW5gcxiLUjg
                    First 2 rounds, Joshua dictated the pace, dictated the exchanges, landed more shots and crucially landed the far more eye-catching shots. As I said you can have a cagey round or 2 but still have one boxer outboxing the other.

                    Ruiz clinched then was looking to throw after releasing the clinch, Joshua hit him with an uppercut followed by a hook. Yes he walked into that shot, he wasnt prepared his stance was all wrong and he wasnt protecting himself. Joshua was sharper in that exchange and punished his mistake
                    I'd agree that Ruiz was a bit tentative in the first two rounds but once he realized that AJ wasn't Superman he went to work. No matter how the second fight ends, the first fight showed me that AJ better stay away from Wilder as should Ruiz.

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                    • andocom
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by OldTerry
                      Can't help but remind you that after being dropped in the third round Ruiz proceeded to put Joshua down twice. AJ's only hope is to stick and jab and hope for a KO opening. I'm sure he won't want to engage in any close up battles with Ruiz.
                      No need to remind me of anything, my reply was to someone saying at no point was Joshua outboxing Ruiz in the third, well actually at any point early in the fight, nothing more or less.

                      If you think dropping your opponent doesn't qualify as outboxing them, feel free to continue.

                      However if you think dropping your opponent would qualify as outboxing them, not sure what you are disagreeing with?

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