Motorcity Cobra intervention thread

[chrisJS]

MCC is in full meltdown mode. Should retire really.

He’s been completely useless for a while now. Adds nothing but racism. A bit boring already.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

We can agree that only someone with an agenda doesn’t think loma is a top P4p boxer right now. I think he is a sure fire hof’er.

I think it fair to question ATG status when you haven’t defeated one sure fire hof’er and you lost to the most experienced guy on your resume.

Is someone allowed to make this distinction without being labeled a racist or a Loma hater and have a reasonable discussion with someone that disagrees?

I was asking about outside of NSB because Its abundantly clear you cant within the confines of the forum.

Based on what myself has seen and other posters here it doesnt seem too realistic that you are as unbiased as you pretend to be.

Tough to beat any HOF fighters when there are none available. Pacquiao is the closest guy but he cant make 135 and Lomachenko isnt going above 135. And pac is definitely not going to 135. If he did he would be weight drained, past his prime, and the win would mean nothing.

Maybe he could have beat Donaire if doaire moved up but he was axed by Rigo and then Nicholas Walter's who were both obliterated by Lomachenko himself.

Some of you guys have to stretch so far and claim that Lomachenko isnt facing the top competition but he clearly is. Then some of you go so far to invent boogeymen out of people much less accomplished as himself and say they're superior.

Take Salido. Yeah he lost to Salido in a SD that was a nasty fight. Yeah yeah. But ask your unbiased self if Lomachenko would have lost in a rematch? The fight was offered and Salido declined.

You think Lomachenko would lose against him now? That hes possibly the same fighter then?

You create ideas to fit your bias. Every ATG has a loss minus Floyd, but we all know that only because of his careful matchmaking

[MulaKO]

oh yeah they are the exact same thing


both guys who were selling the same ppv numbers over their last 3 fights and you think one guy should get 100 percent of the ppv money and the other should get a flat fee of 40 million?

the way you frame everything is full of bias. floyd turned down a career high payday when he changed his demands since a 50-50 split with pac would have been the most he ever made. of course you would never look at it that way or say that. its always someone elses fault even though you know for a fact floyds offer was a joke.

how was lomas offer a joke to walters? was walters some secret ppv star? was he tryin to rip walters off in any way? explain yourself and your illogical comments or are you going to come back with more horrible false equivalencies that make no sense?

Now that’s laying down the fughin law
Great post

[Real King Kong]

I’m sorry daggum I was using the same logic you did when you accused Floyd of ducking manny when manny turned down a career high payday and then fighting him when manny didn’t have the best chance to win.

As I posted , I guess cobra can’t use your logic and reasoning. You must have copyrighted it or patented it so only you can use it.

My bad.

So you were against that “logic” then, yet use it now? And you’re trying to point out his hypocrisy?

[MulaKO]

Based on what myself has seen and other posters here it doesnt seem too realistic that you are as unbiased as you pretend to be.

Tough to beat any HOF fighters when there are none available. Pacquiao is the closest guy but he cant make 135 and Lomachenko isnt going above 135. And pac is definitely not going to 135. If he did he would be weight drained, past his prime, and the win would mean nothing.

Maybe he could have beat Donaire if doaire moved up but he was axed by Rigo and then Nicholas Walter's who were both obliterated by Lomachenko himself.

Some of you guys have to stretch so far and claim that Lomachenko isnt facing the top competition but he clearly is. Then some of you go so far to invent boogeymen out of people much less accomplished as himself and say they're superior.

Take Salido. Yeah he lost to Salido in a SD that was a nasty fight. Yeah yeah. But ask your unbiased self if Lomachenko would have lost in a rematch? The fight was offered and Salido declined.

You think Lomachenko would lose against him now? That hes possibly the same fighter then?

You create ideas to fit your bias. Every ATG has a loss minus Floyd, but we all know that only because of his careful matchmaking

Good post and well said
When I think about that fight it reminds me of Canelo vs Floyd
Both losing fighters came out of those L’s with so much knowledge that it literally changed their fughin careers for the better
Oh and Loma would of destroyed Salido in a rematch , continuation from the first fight towards the end when Loma was gaining on Salido
Rematch probably midway ko for Loma

[Rockin']

You mean I am the only one talking about it directly. You made the same point just indirectly. No big deal.

This site has always had a disgusting underbelly whose sole purpose is unfairly degrading great fighters.

The man (Loma) is just making the most money that he can in a sport that usually takes too much from a fighters mental capacities. Mayweather can do it but Loma can't? ……..Rockin'

I was simply talking about fighters. You're the only one who brought up race/nationality. …...Rockin'

[Jsmooth9876]

Give the guy a break, his man crush just high tailed it out of a division where he fought absolutely nobody to a division where he could fight a washed up for 5 years Gamboa for another fake title.. meanwhile Loma about to be undisputed while fighting everyone available in the top of the division.

The dudes having a tough go of it this weekend

[The Big Dunn]

Lomachenko schooled Walters so hard that he made him quit in his corner and yell to the ref that he didn't want anymore lmfao

Now go cry in a corner and deal with it

It’s telling that you focus on one small piece of a post and completely (purposely) ignore the larger point of the post because that you can’t refute that point.

[The Big Dunn]

So you were against that “logic” then, yet use it now? And you’re trying to point out his hypocrisy?

Actually go look at the thread. I made a point to szef and then daggum chimes in.

That pissed me off because his whole history is doing this exact same thing.

I am not using the logic. I made a larger point that I think is very fair. My post was not about loma, it was about how we’ve seen half truths and semantics used to degrade a great fighter forever in this site and I don’t know why it is expected to stop now.

[chrisJS]

Based on what myself has seen and other posters here it doesnt seem too realistic that you are as unbiased as you pretend to be.

Tough to beat any HOF fighters when there are none available. Pacquiao is the closest guy but he cant make 135 and Lomachenko isnt going above 135. And pac is definitely not going to 135. If he did he would be weight drained, past his prime, and the win would mean nothing.

Maybe he could have beat Donaire if doaire moved up but he was axed by Rigo and then Nicholas Walter's who were both obliterated by Lomachenko himself.

Some of you guys have to stretch so far and claim that Lomachenko isnt facing the top competition but he clearly is. Then some of you go so far to invent boogeymen out of people much less accomplished as himself and say they're superior.

Take Salido. Yeah he lost to Salido in a SD that was a nasty fight. Yeah yeah. But ask your unbiased self if Lomachenko would have lost in a rematch? The fight was offered and Salido declined.

You think Lomachenko would lose against him now? That hes possibly the same fighter then?

You create ideas to fit your bias. Every ATG has a loss minus Floyd, but we all know that only because of his careful matchmaking

Rocky Marciano, Joe Calzaghe, Ricardo Lopez, Jimmy Barry don’t have losses.

I’ve heard Dunn say Calzaghe was no good though...