Official! NSB Lineal Champs Thread

[DuckAdonis]

HW- Tyson Fury
CW- Usyk
LHW- Gvozdyk
SMW- Vacant
MW- Canelo
LMW- Vacant
WW- Vacant
LWW- Vacant (Prograis-Taylor winner)
Lightweight- Vacant (Loma if he becomes undisputed)
SFW- Vacant
FW- Vacant
SBW- Rigondeaux
BW- Vacant
SFLY- Estrada

[DuckAdonis]

IMO...
(I’ve also listed the 1 & 2 for titles I consider vacant)

HW Fury

200 Usyk (Soon to be Vacant once Usyk debuts at HW)
1. Briedis
2. Dorticos

175 Gvodzyk

168 Vacant
1. Smith
2. Ramirez

160 Canelo

154 Vacant
1. Williams
2. Charlo

147 Vacant
1. Crawford
2. Spence

140 Vacant
1. Taylor
2. Prograis

135 Vacant
1. Lomachenko
2. Commey (Unless Garcia moves back down)

130 Vacant
1. Berchelt
2. Davis

126 Vacant
1. Santa Cruz
2. Russell Jr

122 Rigondeaux

118 Vacant
1. Inoue
2. Nery

115 Estrada

112 Vacant
1. Tanaka
2. Mthalane

108 Vacant
1. Shiro
2. Kyoguchi

105 Vacant
1. KO CP Freshmart
2. Menayothin

Agree with them all except for Jermell Charlo. He lost to Harrison. He is not #2 until he avenges his loss to him. I'd say the winners of Williams-Hurd 2 and Harrison-Charlo 2 can face eachother for the title

[thedarkdragon11]

Heavyweight: Vacant (last held by Fury)
Cruiserweight: Usyk (soon to be vacated; Briedis-Dorticos winner might take over)
Light Heavyweight: Gvozdyk
Super Middleweight: Vacant (last held by Ward)
Middleweight: Canelo
Junior Middleweight: Vacant (last held by Mayweather; Hurd-Williams 2 winner might take over)
Welterweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Junior Welterweight: Mikey (soon to be vacated)
Lightweight: Vacant (last held by Crawford)
Junior Lightweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Featherweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Junior Featherweight: Rigo
Bantamweight: Vacant (last held by Piņango)
Junior Bantamweight: Estrada
Flyweight: Vacant (last held by Chocolatito)
Junior Flyweight: Vacant (last held by Segura)
Minimumweight: Vacant (last held by Finito)

TBRB got it right... Unless they won't consider Mikey's throne as vacant on the rankings of the week after September 10...

[thedarkdragon11]

imo they should have never taken him out.... we all know that he was gonna come back and box again.....

That's because Fury declared that he's retired... The one he retracted hours after... The point is, he announced retirement... Be it a minute or a decade long, it's still a retirement...

[_Rexy_]

That's because Fury declared that he's retired... The one he retracted hours after... The point is, he announced retirement... Be it a minute or a decade long, it's still a retirement...

no it isn't lol. If I tweet "I'm retired" I'm still expected to go to work tomorrow

[NearHypnos]

no it isn't lol. If I tweet "I'm retired" I'm still expected to go to work tomorrow

Now do it for two years and waltz in without warning.

It’s also different. You have a job. Tyson Fury did not.

Dude was suspended for peds and also retired. Couldnt come back if he wanted. No one thought he was coming back he was in the midst of a very real personal crisis. It wasn’t like Floyd who was still training and already only fought sparingly and had his biggest money fights on the table.

Fury was retired retired.

AJ should have been considered the lineal after that as the man unified and beat all the other champs outside of the only one who he wasnt able to step into the ring with.

Adonis was never considered the man at 75 either but he kept himself as the champ while letting Kovalev do all the work and clean up and unify the division. That’s how The Nail became lineal. Shoulda been Ward after he beat Kova but lineage is lineage.


Lineal is nice when it isnt held hostage like Adonis did. Still, at least it’s in the hands of a worthy fighter right now so it ended up okay.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Agree with them all except for Jermell Charlo. He lost to Harrison. He is not #2 until he avenges his loss to him. I'd say the winners of Williams-Hurd 2 and Harrison-Charlo 2 can face eachother for the title

Yeah I’m down with that. 154 is a bit of a mess atm with all the upsets.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Heavyweight: Vacant (last held by Fury)
Cruiserweight: Usyk (soon to be vacated; Briedis-Dorticos winner might take over)
Light Heavyweight: Gvozdyk
Super Middleweight: Vacant (last held by Ward)
Middleweight: Canelo
Junior Middleweight: Vacant (last held by Mayweather; Hurd-Williams 2 winner might take over)
Welterweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Junior Welterweight: Mikey (soon to be vacated)
Lightweight: Vacant (last held by Crawford)
Junior Lightweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Featherweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Junior Featherweight: Rigo
Bantamweight: Vacant (last held by Piņango)
Junior Bantamweight: Estrada
Flyweight: Vacant (last held by Chocolatito)
Junior Flyweight: Vacant (last held by Segura)
Minimumweight: Vacant (last held by Finito)

TBRB got it right... Unless they won't consider Mikey's throne as vacant on the rankings of the week after September 10...

If Welterweight was last held by Pacquiao. That makes Crawford the lineal 147 Champ. As Horn beat Pac then Crawford beat Horn.

It was last held by Mayweather IMO.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I just don't see Charlo as that guy. And I had Harrison with the win on the cards. Charlo looked clueless the whole fight, getting his head snapped by counters and was clueless on how to proceed.

154 (in my opinion)

1) Williams
2) Hurd
3) Harrison
4) Charlo
5) Munguia (Although I thought Hogan beat him, and Adames likely beats him too)

I have Williams #1 and those next 3 are pretty much interchangeable IMO. If both rematches happen it will likely settle any doubts.

[DuckAdonis]

Heavyweight: Vacant (last held by Fury)
Cruiserweight: Usyk (soon to be vacated; Briedis-Dorticos winner might take over)
Light Heavyweight: Gvozdyk
Super Middleweight: Vacant (last held by Ward)
Middleweight: Canelo
Junior Middleweight: Vacant (last held by Mayweather; Hurd-Williams 2 winner might take over)
Welterweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Junior Welterweight: Mikey (soon to be vacated)
Lightweight: Vacant (last held by Crawford)
Junior Lightweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Featherweight: Vacant (last held by Pacquiao)
Junior Featherweight: Rigo
Bantamweight: Vacant (last held by Piņango)
Junior Bantamweight: Estrada
Flyweight: Vacant (last held by Chocolatito)
Junior Flyweight: Vacant (last held by Segura)
Minimumweight: Vacant (last held by Finito)

TBRB got it right... Unless they won't consider Mikey's throne as vacant on the rankings of the week after September 10...

I don't agree with TRBR. Mikey is not lineal at 140. Who did he beat? Lipinets was not #1 or #2 at that weight to me. Not at all. Lipinets beat no one before losing to Mikey