Paulie Malignaggi was Never Great Because he was Clean

[pretty ste]

Oh please he was Just not good enough he had the worst brittle hands in boxing history all he ever had was a jab good fighter but he has alot of hate in his blood

[boliodogs]

I think steroids are much overrated. They might make a boxer a little better but they can't turn a lousy fighter into a good fighter. Paulie couldn't punch at all and all the steroids in the world wouldn't change that. Look at all the great old time boxers who were killer punchers with great stamina long before steroids were even around. I'd say boxers are good mostly because of natural ability and training hard and perfecting their skills. Steroids might help a little but if a boxer is not naturally good steroids won't help.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I don't see any rationale for a dirty fighter to be so adamantly against doping during their careers and long after retiring. When you factor that with the lack of physical signs and sub par athletic performance, we can confidently say that there is a very high probability that he was clean.

Like BJS who cried about Canelo and said he should be banned? He went quiet... apologized for everything...

That’s an Olympian...

You know how many Olympians did things?

Yeah sure Paulie couldn’t possibly be dirty because he cried about PEDs like Whyte or Miller’s opinions. towards AJ...

Let’s not be naive.

[New England]

paulie would have had a very strong career if he didn't have awful hands. doesn't need to be a bruising puncher, either, just can't have your hands breaking all the time.

if he had power he'd have been a real handful.


but it doesn't work liek that. he wasn't that kind of athlete. totally lacked in explosiveness. didn't punch through a target, most of his speed was generated right away and tapered off as he turned his shots over. like i said, feather fisted puncher and that is that.

[New England]

I think steroids are much overrated. They might make a boxer a little better but they can't turn a lousy fighter into a good fighter. Paulie couldn't punch at all and all the steroids in the world wouldn't change that. Look at all the great old time boxers who were killer punchers with great stamina long before steroids were even around. I'd say boxers are good mostly because of natural ability and training hard and perfecting their skills. Steroids might help a little but if a boxer is not naturally good steroids won't help.

if that's the case then memo heredia is the greatest trainer of all time.


look at all the great old time boxers, right? how many of them fought until they were in their 40's? how many of them put on 15 lbs in 24 hours like it was nothing? how many of them put on lean muscle as they aged?

[john l]

Hmm interesting observation. But who says he was definitely clean. He said he would definitely decapitate lobov and look what happened smh, he was just as adamant about that as he is about his detest for drug cheats. Maybe he's just a loudmouth Italian American who talks a lot of ****...or maybe he's a passionate guy who wears his heart on his sleeve and is real to the core. I guess only Paulie will ever know for sure. Obviously he didn't have power but look at wilders power , power seems more natural than drug induced, but what do I know. Look at Tyson they say he was juicing it didn't turn him into a wilder.
Was foreman and iron mikes power nature or chemical nurture.

Im pretty sure Paulie was clean, nothing he did suggests otherwise. He never had his power increase or moved up a bunch of divisions with same explosiveness and power. Wilder is one of the few we can be sure is clean because he pays for Vada 365 out of his own pocket. Not to be confused with CBP by the WBC which uses VADA , but hardly tests due to the money(or lack there of)that they have put in it. Paulie is just st8 up and loves the sport and is not afraid to point out the obvious.

[john l]

if that's the case then memo heredia is the greatest trainer of all time.


look at all the great old time boxers, right? how many of them fought until they were in their 40's? how many of them put on 15 lbs in 24 hours like it was nothing? how many of them put on lean muscle as they aged?

Exactly. Anyone who thinks PEDs don't help ALOT is either uneducated on PEDs and boxing or has an agenda. To those of you who don't think PEDs make a huge difference just check out Micky Bey. Check out a couple of his fights, and then watch the one he pizzed dirty for, its like a whole another fighter. His testosterone level was like 32-1, when acceptable is something like 3,4 to 1. Watch them fights and tell me PEDs don't work.

[techliam]

The only fighter to legitimately convince me he is 100% clean is Nonito Donaire.

He voluntarily signed up for Olympic style 365 days a year testing, and has VADA administering all of his fights, and has done so for a number of years

[john l]

I think steroids are much overrated. They might make a boxer a little better but they can't turn a lousy fighter into a good fighter. Paulie couldn't punch at all and all the steroids in the world wouldn't change that. Look at all the great old time boxers who were killer punchers with great stamina long before steroids were even around. I'd say boxers are good mostly because of natural ability and training hard and perfecting their skills. Steroids might help a little but if a boxer is not naturally good steroids won't help.

Of course their not gonna make a "lousy" fighter good, but they can make a decent fighter good or a good fighter great. Check out Micky Bey he is a lightweight that was a good amateur, but as a pro he did not have the pop to be successful. Watch a few of his fights, then watch the one he pizzes dirty for he looks like a future champ. His testosterone level was like 32-1, when acceptable level is like 4-1. Watch those fights and tell me PEDs cant make a big difference. Especially when at this level their is not a huge difference between being a champion or an also ran.

[john l]

The only fighter to legitimately convince me he is 100% clean is Nonito Donaire.

He voluntarily signed up for Olympic style 365 days a year testing, and has VADA administering all of his fights, and has done so for a number of years

As has Wilder and both pay for it out of their own pocket.