Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Promoter 'Not Saying 11/2 Doesn't Work' For Canelo

[Vlad_]

Andre Ward

The cheating hoe whose career Kovalev ended and sent into retirement? What about him?

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I don't think my original statement about Kovalev was properly comprehended even after I clarified.

Being more proven than someone else does not necessarily mean you're the best. If Andrade fights them he will beat them both especially GGG. I don't think I have to elaborate on if Andrade has been avoided at all, I think that much is obvious. So let's do this: since Andrade is not the most avoided IYO why have you not refuted it by naming anyone who's more avoided than him? ��

u are such a joker. they dont want to fight him because he isnt exciting. he barely sells any shows and has one good name on his resume. this is business at the end of the day.

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Ward was never a big PPV star. Canelo is the draw. He could fight the mummy and draw as many fans as a Canelo vs Ward fight.

That wasn't my point. My point was canelo is picking these fights to make it seem like he's getting a real challenge or challenging him self to be great. Want to be great beat the man that was P4P #2. Beat the man who beat Kov twice ! Beat the man who cleaned out 168lb division. Beat the man who won the super six. Beat the man who GGG was scared of.

For us real boxing fans wars vs Canelo is a real ppv fight for us.

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That wasn't my point. My point was canelo is picking these fights to make it seem like he's getting a real challenge or challenging him self to be great. Want to be great beat the man that was P4P #2. Beat the man who beat Kov twice ! Beat the man who cleaned out 168lb division. Beat the man who won the super six. Beat the man who GGG was scared of.

For us real boxing fans wars vs Canelo is a real ppv fight for us.

you do realize it was ward who turned down the fight right? i mean thats clear now. "promotional issues" lmao yeah ward wanted easy fights. that came out in court. pavlik and sartison he wanted but not ggg so how was ggg scared? it was ward who refused to figth the guys hbo wanted. even went to court 3 times and lost all 3 because he thought he had control over opponent selection. then 3 years later ggg rejected wards fake offer that was a multi fight deal meaning ggg had to postpone the canelo fight for a year

where was the one fight offer? why this multi fight deal nonsense when everyone knew ggg was waiting for that wbc big fight. i mean if ward wanted to fight ggg so bad...oh wait there was none. meanwhile ggg offered ward a one fight offer for 50-50 which ward didnt deserve and ward turned it down. the spin is unreal. oh it was at a catchweight so it wasnt a legit offer! meanwhile wards multi fight offer that he knew wouldnt be acccepted is legit? makes no sense. you can't have it both ways.

in 2012-2013 the guy who wanted to fight was ggg and ward was the guy ducking. thats clear. court records prove it. in 2015 neither guy made a serious offer. you take all that info, put it in your brain, and get ggg was scared? wow

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That wasn't my point. My point was canelo is picking these fights to make it seem like he's getting a real challenge or challenging him self to be great. Want to be great beat the man that was P4P #2. Beat the man who beat Kov twice ! Beat the man who cleaned out 168lb division. Beat the man who won the super six. Beat the man who GGG was scared of.

For us real boxing fans wars vs Canelo is a real ppv fight for us.

With apologies to Bob Dylan, he "doesn't have to conjure up long-dead souls," there are several current 168 lb to 178 lb fighters that might be able to beat Canelo. That does not diminish from the fact that fighting Kovalev, one of the best 175 lb fighters of the last 10 years, is not a challenge for Canelo. Moreover, Canelo does not need to fight Ward to be considered great. The totality of his resume and History will determine if he is going to be considered great or not. Beating a retired Ward will have little to do with that.

Look, even if Canelo were to fight and beat Ward, that would not necessarily be helpful to him. Many would say that he brought Ward out of retirement, that Ward was a shell of himself and that Canelo could not beat the real Ward and so on. By the way, such a fight would not be on PPV, it would be streamed on DAZN.

[The D3vil]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Canelo & GBP doing some hoe ass shxt

[JuniorTorres720]

Not necessarily true. Kovalev jumping into a fight against a prime canelo in a few months time after a hard gritty fight is a terrible decision. He needs rest, older fighters need more rest after fights where they were hurt badly. Take Miguel cotto vs Sadam Ali as a good example where Miguel cotto jumped into that fight a few months after a war vs kamegai and as a result was hurt numerous times because he couldn’t take a good punch due to lack of rest considering his mileage.

That makes sense. More rest seems to be the common narrative with guys like Pacquiao and GGG nowadays.

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With apologies to Bob Dylan, he "doesn't have to conjure up long-dead souls," there are several current 168 lb to 178 lb fighters that might be able to beat Canelo. That does not diminish from the fact that fighting Kovalev, one of the best 175 lb fighters of the last 10 years, is not a challenge for Canelo. Moreover, Canelo does not need to fight Ward to be considered great. The totality of his resume and History will determine if he is going to be considered great or not. Beating a retired Ward will have little to do with that.

Look, even if Canelo were to fight and beat Ward, that would not necessarily be helpful to him. Many would say that he brought Ward out of retirement, that Ward was a shell of himself and that Canelo could not beat the real Ward and so on. By the way, such a fight would not be on PPV, it would be streamed on DAZN.

Beating Ward is next to beating Floyd Mayweather. To us on boxingscene that would be a huge accomplishment. Even though i think ward would school him retired or not.

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you do realize it was ward who turned down the fight right? i mean thats clear now. "promotional issues" lmao yeah ward wanted easy fights. that came out in court. pavlik and sartison he wanted but not ggg so how was ggg scared? it was ward who refused to figth the guys hbo wanted. even went to court 3 times and lost all 3 because he thought he had control over opponent selection. then 3 years later ggg rejected wards fake offer that was a multi fight deal meaning ggg had to postpone the canelo fight for a year

where was the one fight offer? why this multi fight deal nonsense when everyone knew ggg was waiting for that wbc big fight. i mean if ward wanted to fight ggg so bad...oh wait there was none. meanwhile ggg offered ward a one fight offer for 50-50 which ward didnt deserve and ward turned it down. the spin is unreal. oh it was at a catchweight so it wasnt a legit offer! meanwhile wards multi fight offer that he knew wouldnt be acccepted is legit? makes no sense. you can't have it both ways.

in 2012-2013 the guy who wanted to fight was ggg and ward was the guy ducking. thats clear. court records prove it. in 2015 neither guy made a serious offer. you take all that info, put it in your brain, and get ggg was scared? wow

I remember GGG calling him out and everybody at 160-168. GGG fought nobody but bums. Soon as Ward moved up to 175 then GGG started to call him out at 168. Fake news all around. Besides Jacobs and his two loses to canelo he fought straight bums. Never cleaned out a division or anything.