James toney sparring

[Bozo_no no]

You little ***** this is good work, your nasty girl.

Following me around in NSB now?

Cong**** on having a gay day today tiger.

[scap]

Following me around in NSB now?

Cong**** on having a gay day today tiger.

This is much appreciated-give me your free dates and I can shcedule my trips accordingly-you tight lil *****.

Be sweat too me people are gonna start thnking we are fighting and then you know what will happen...they will move in on my turf...you wanna crush me...go ahead and let that happen.

Remember what i said at the airport.

[Bozo_no no]

This is much appreciated-give me your free dates and I can shcedule my trips accordingly-you tight lil *****.

Be sweat too me people are gonna start thnking we are fighting and then you know what will happen...they will move in on my turf...you wanna crush me...go ahead and let that happen.

Remember what i said at the airport.

Once again, your gay stalking is even more sad when you resort to bringing it into the boxing forum.

Not much else to talk about in here since Hopkins went out on top hey Arnie?

[scap]

Once again, your gay stalking is even more sad when you resort to bringing it into the boxing forum.

Not much else to talk about in here since Hopkins went out on top hey Arnie?

I love it when you call me Arnie...talk about stirring up old memories between us...man that makes me feel good.

Remember when I put my match in your gas tank, I thought your neighbors were gonna call the ****ing cops...then you calmed me down by saying people in government housing rarely call the cops...you can be one reassuring son of a gun when you are all filled up.

Call me.

[Bozo_no no]

I love it when you call me Arnie...talk about stirring up old memories between us...man that makes me feel good.

Remember when I put my match in your gas tank, I thought your neighbors were gonna call the ****ing cops...then you calmed me down by saying people in government housing rarely call the cops...you can be one reassuring son of a gun when you are all filled up.

Call me.

Scap you can make up all the **** fantacies you want, but keep it in the Thunder dome.

I know it still stings that your "Hopkins isn't s great fighter" non sense was exposed, but all this dwelling and obsessing on me isn't going to make you feel any better.

Only your medication will.

[scap]

Scap you can make up all the **** fantacies you want, but keep it in the Thunder dome.

I know it still stings that your "Hopkins isn't s great fighter" non sense was exposed, but all this dwelling and obsessing on me isn't going to make you feel any better.

Only your medication will.

I have taken this way to far...your right-I promised never to discuss your body and I have have not lived up to that promise.

My word is obviously not too strong with you right now and I understand that.

Hey...you gotta be feeling pretty good right now...
1) you made me look like a dip**** when conversing about Nard and...

2) You got to squat on my spear...

There isnt another member hear that can say that.

[Bozo_no no]

Wrong forum.

Try to calm down, and leave your lies and fantacies in here:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82630

[oldgringo]

You don't win a fight by scoring clean or aesthetically pleasing punches, you win it by imposing your will on your opponent. If you land a glancing, sloppy blow that sends your opponent reeling, it should count more than a picture perfect right hand counter that has nil effect.

Whoever lands the most effective punches should win the round. Where those punches hit or how they hit is inconsequential. What matters is that they have a visible effect on the opponent upon impact. This is how professional boxing is scored and why knockdowns carry so much weight in that scoring. The guy who made his opponent's head snap back with every blow and had his opponent staggering all over the ring should win the fight, not the feather fisted fancy dan who puts on a magic show.

I don't care if your a boxer, swarmer, slugger, dancer, etc. If you land the more effective punches (effective as in the sense that they clearly have more of an effect on the opponent, not "effective" as in whatever arbitrary sense you are using the word) you win the round. Toney won some rounds on my card early on but he faded and Rahman took over. Overall, Rahman won more rounds than Toney. It was close, but Rahman was the definite winner of that fight.

I am willing to watch it again and I'll see if a second viewing will change my mind but the way I remember it, I was pissed when the draw was announced and had Rahman ahead by two rounds or so.

It's appalling to me that some of you seem to think that Toneys power punches had 0 effect on Rahman. Hitting your opponent (or grazing) with a mediocre double jab and then moving him into the ropes with punches that land on his back is not "imposing your will". If Toneys power shots had 0 effect on Rahman then Rahman wouldn't have changed his strategy halfway through the fight. He would have kept trying to maul Toney, but he didn't do that the whole time...much like he was very reluctant to throw his right hand in the later portion of the fight.

Why was this you ask?

Answer ------------------------> He was tired of eating right hand counters from Toney. That's why he backed off and used the double/triple jab to keep the range to his advantage.

Even so, the scoring of that fight really cannot be THAT hard to comprehend. People who had it a draw or had it for Toney (I had scored it even) scored 6-7 rounds for Toney landing MANY solid right hand counters, as well as jabbing well to the body and in between Rocks guard. The rounds scored for Rahman were rounds where Rock took advantage of Toneys poor shape and he doubled and tripled the jab effectively, ****ing away on Toney when he wouldn't let his hands go.

It's not an insane decision either way you slice it.