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  • Squ□redCircle34
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    #41
    Originally posted by Verus
    Yarde looks the part, but he ain’t the part — at least not yet. He is limited. The graveyard is littered with the bones of boxers who had the physical attributes of Hercules, but came up way short. Apart from looking good, Yarde did not show real promise as a world class level fighter as far as I can tell. But I have been wrong before.
    I respect your opinion!

    I just think he needs a world class trainer and use real traditional boxing methods of training!

    I mean for him to come out and say he’s never seen Yarde tired is a red flag!

    Stop with the Mayweather mitt work, choreographed sparring and get hard sparring and do some roadwork!

    For someone who has the minuscule amount of experience Yarde has and to almost stop an elite fighter like Kovalev even past prime tells me he’s got something special but needs someone to bring it out and maximize it!

    Someone with that amount of experience normally lasts a few rounds with elite guys whether prime or not!

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    • Verus
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      #42
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      I respect your opinion!

      I just think he needs a world class trainer and use real traditional boxing methods of training!

      I mean for him to come out and say he’s never seen Yarde tired is a red flag!

      Stop with the Mayweather mitt work, choreographed sparring and get hard sparring and do some roadwork!

      For someone who has the minuscule amount of experience Yarde has and to almost stop an elite fighter like Kovalev even past prime tells me he’s got something special but needs someone to bring it out and maximize it!

      Someone with that amount of experience normally lasts a few rounds with elite guys whether prime or not!
      You bring up some good points. I particularly agree that he does need to spar and get a new world level trainer. Let's see how his career develops.

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      • Ray*
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        #43
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        Anyone else rewatch the round in question? Kovalev was hurt, but not NEARLY as hurt as I thought he was. He clinched up once, but after that he was throwing back with Yarde.
        Funny you said this, I rewatched the fight yesterday on my app and it look worse watching it live than it actually looked when I watched it yesterday.

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        • _Rexy_
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          #44
          Originally posted by Ray*
          Funny you said this, I rewatched the fight yesterday on my app and it look worse watching it live than it actually looked when I watched it yesterday.
          Sounds like a lot of us have similar experiences haha

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          • P4Pdunny
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            #45
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            Anyone else rewatch the round in question? Kovalev was hurt, but not NEARLY as hurt as I thought he was. He clinched up once, but after that he was throwing back with Yarde.
            In real time it looked like he was much more hurt than he actually was. What struck me was that I don't recall Yarde going for the body once in that little flurry, just kept head hunting.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Corelone
              I'll admit I pushed for Yarde, I like underdogs, but Yarde went down from a jab. His chin is highly suspect.
              I'm not sure man, I reckon wind would have dropped him at that point. It looked more like he succumbed to exhaustion in the end. He was taking some good shots earlier on.

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                #47
                Originally posted by P4Pdunny
                In real time it looked like he was much more hurt than he actually was. What struck me was that I don't recall Yarde going for the body once in that little flurry, just kept head hunting.
                Same. He hurt him to the body then started head hunting again. Terrible boxing IQ.

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                • shine11
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                  #48
                  Im not sure if anyone has seen this but I genuinely think Yarde lost the fight because of Tunde.



                  There were no tactical adjustments or advice given. He didnt mention anything about defending the jab or closing the distance with one. The worst was when he told him to empty the tank in the 8th. Now that I think about it, John David Jackson told Tunde they have to go to the body and make sure Kovalev doesnt get the leverage to work from a distance. Had Yarde stayed in the pocket and worked the body from Round 1 he could have probably won. Kovalev is elite but I think Tunde just didnt maximize Yarde's intangibles.I get staying loyal to who brought you to the dance but there is nothing wrong with bringing in an experience trainer as a consultant for camp and fight night. I know Tunde used to work with Junior Saba(Otuo Saba) since he was a kid and dude couldnt go pro because of a brain injury or something like that doctors couldnt clear him to fight. Is this where Tunde's fear of sparring and reluctance comes from ?
                  Last edited by shine11; 08-28-2019, 08:05 AM.

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                  • HeadBodyBodyBody
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by shine11
                    Im not sure if anyone has seen this but I genuinely think Yarde lost the fight because of Tunde.



                    There were no tactical adjustments or advice given. He didnt mention anything about defending the jab or closing the distance with one. The worst was when he told him to empty the tank in the 8th. Now that I think about it, John David Jackson told Tunde they have to go to the body and make sure Kovalev doesnt get the leverage to work from a distance. Had Yarde stayed in the pocket and worked the body from Round 1 he could have probably won. Kovalev is elite but I think Tunde just didnt maximize Yarde's intangibles.I get staying loyal to who brought you to the dance but there is nothing wrong with bringing in an experience trainer as a consultant for camp and fight night. I know Tunde used to work with Junior Saba(Otuo Saba) since he was a kid and dude couldnt go pro because of a brain injury or something like that doctors couldnt clear him to fight. Is this where Tunde's fear of sparring and reluctance comes from ?
                    Just watched it, interesting. Tunde's corner advice was objectively wrong at times. Like when he says that Kov is gone at the end of the 10th, when it was in fact Yarde that was completely gassed

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                    • shine11
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
                      Just watched it, interesting. Tunde's corner advice was objectively wrong at times. Like when he says that Kov is gone at the end of the 10th, when it was in fact Yarde that was completely gassed
                      I was surprised when he kept saying 2 more rounds and hes tired, 1 more round and hes done. What exactly was he basing that on ? Yarde wasn't doing any body work the whole time. Simply banking on your opponent getting tired on the world stage isn't enough to win a title. Not once did he address Kovalev's jab. I really hope he grows from this as a trainer. If he cares about Yarde like he claims he should be receptive to toning his pride down and getting some help himself

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