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  • #11
    Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
    Bunch of BS,

    I watched it again and at no point would it have warranted a stoppage. Everyone is exaggerating. The 10th round was way more of a one sided beating. Yarde only put it on Kov in the last minute of the 8th round. 10th round was way more one-sided
    Kovalevs own corner was about to stop the fight and told him they were going to pull him out if he took more punishment after round 8. What won the fight for Kovalev was Yardes attempt to take it to late rounds and that was a poor decision as I Explained why because hes a 5 round fighter on average so he needed to go for it earlier and or pace himself but he was losing the fight so its obvious the latter was the game plan and it was a bad one.

    Again you don't know much about much here.
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 08-26-2019, 07:36 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
      How the hell did Yardes team not know about Yardes own stamina levels. Yarde himself is oblivious he has no experience, hes not been really pushed hard and hasnt had to go long hard rounds, he felt like a king and expected the Kovalev fight to feel and pan out like the rest. The truth is he hasnt got a clue, but surely his team should.

      Hes not done the rounds in the fights, or in sparring apparently which i find hard to believe, hes not been pushed hard or pushed back, hes not felt those energy sapping nerves of a big important fight against a formidable opponent.

      It was too big of a leap and Yardes version of that style of fighting had serious defensive issues that you should of dealt with and refined in his rise through the the quality of opposition aswell as finding out your stamina isnt quite what it was when you were schooling and knocking out bums. You cant take big inexperienced jumps like that and get away with it unless there is something special about you and Yarde is a good fighter but not good enough to just jump up in class and take down somebody like Kovalev. The mans still green as hell.
      Sometimes I think the word 'Experienced' gets used abit too much these days for all athletes to hide behind. 'Fact of the matter is? If you are good enough, you win'. You don't suddenly just become aware of stamina issues during a professional fight? You know about these sort of factors inside of the gym. 'Fighters improve in the gym 99.9% of the time' the professional fights are just the end product of that work.

      Chris Eubank Senior once stated that most of his wars and hardest fights happened inside of the gym.

      Anthony Yarde is in condition, I just believe that the realm of elite level boxing has unearthed 'Not a weakness' but he is maybe slightly below par in the endurance department.

      When you are a younger fighter going into fight against a older fighter chronologically, who according to the stereotypes in society is going to fade badly. 'The one thing they should of been working on in training camp, was making sure that Anthony Yarde's engine was off the charts'.

      Anthony Yarde was beaten at his own game,he was out lasted and could not revive is energy levels 'Where as his opponent after a really tough patch revived his energy levels etc'.

      I see Anthony Yarde as a imposing fighter physically, he has some great athletic gifts 'But he needs to work on his jab, stance and creativity'. Usually things such as creativity inside of the ring is innate, so I am not sure how he will improve that.

      Nevertheless I think Yarde is a live opponent for anyone at elite level.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        If you go at Kovalev early you don't let him set up and get comfortable you then can pace mid rounds and then go again hard late,One doesn't just unload everything in uncharted territory that's actually the dumbest thing to do at a stage in the fight you've never been to....you have zero knowledge about it and never fought before ,STFU. lol
        I'm not saying what Yarde did was smart, but it was probably his best chance to win. What you suggest is even dumber. He couldn't match Kovalev for skill so he had to go for it eventually. 7th or 8th round is when Kov usually gasses so it was a good shout
        Last edited by DuckAdonis; 08-26-2019, 08:04 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
          Sometimes I think the word 'Experienced' gets used abit too much these days for all athletes to hide behind. 'Fact of the matter is? If you are good enough, you win'. You don't suddenly just become aware of stamina issues during a professional fight? You know about these sort of factors inside of the gym. 'Fighters improve in the gym 99.9% of the time' the professional fights are just the end product of that work.

          Chris Eubank Senior once stated that most of his wars and hardest fights happened inside of the gym.

          Anthony Yarde is in condition, I just believe that the realm of elite level boxing has unearthed 'Not a weakness' but he is maybe slightly below par in the endurance department.

          When you are a younger fighter going into fight against a older fighter chronologically, who according to the stereotypes in society is going to fade badly. 'The one thing they should of been working on in training camp, was making sure that Anthony Yarde's engine was off the charts'.

          Anthony Yarde was beaten at his own game,he was out lasted and could not revive is energy levels 'Where as his opponent after a really tough patch revived his energy levels etc'.

          I see Anthony Yarde as a imposing fighter physically, he has some great athletic gifts 'But he needs to work on his jab, stance and creativity'. Usually things such as creativity inside of the ring is innate, so I am not sure how he will improve that.

          Nevertheless I think Yarde is a live opponent for anyone at elite level.

          Experienced plays a much bigger role than you think. Part of Anthony Yarde's fatigue was because the moment got to him. Kovalev had been there many times. Yarde may not have had stamina but he didn't know how to deal with that. For example the fight before Makabu was tired, but he used his savvy to beat Papin in a grueling fight because he didn't get flustered in the moment and intelligently conserved his energy.
          Yarde was very frustrated by the better boxer's jab and Buddy Girt's inspirational speech between 8th and 9th motivated Kovalev to beat him down.

          I do agree Kovalev is better but experienced did help in this case.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            Kovalevs own corner was about to stop the fight and told him they were going to pull him out if he took more punishment after round 8. What won the fight for Kovalev was Yardes attempt to take it to late rounds and that was a poor decision as I Explained why because hes a 5 round fighter on average so he needed to go for it earlier and or pace himself but he was losing the fight so its obvious the latter was the game plan and it was a bad one.

            Again you don't know much about much here.
            Bruh you said he should go at Kovalev early and that Kovalev got lucky lmfao. You don't know sheet about Kovalev. I have been a fan for years. McGirt said he would stop the fight if he had another round like that because he just had a fighter die recently and he was overreacting. Take a look at the 10th round again, that was a savage beating...way more one-sided.

            Kovalev sets up his shots better, has a better active guard, better ring iq and he was setting up Yarde with shots he couldn't see. Constantly peppering Yarde with that jab that he fired from different levels. If Yarde jumped on him early, Kovalev would have capitalised on his mistakes like he did in the 9th round. Yarde was also pressuring him in that round but got walked into clean hard shots. You need to be careful Vs Kovalev in the early rounds or he will put your lights out. Everyone that tried to fight Kov early on has gotten knocked out, it's madness to do that. Yarde has good punching technique going for him and power, but Kovalev is the better boxer with just as much and probably more power. Jump on him early and you jump into a Knockout Blow. You saying I don't know what I'm talking about is ridiculous, you sound like an idiot sorry.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
              Bruh you said he should go at Kovalev early and that Kovalev got lucky lmfao. You don't know sheet about Kovalev. I have been a fan for years. McGirt said he would stop the fight if he had another round like that because he just had a fighter die recently and he was overreacting. Take a look at the 10th round again, that was a savage beating...way more one-sided.

              Kovalev sets up his shots better, has a better active guard, better ring iq and he was setting up Yarde with shots he couldn't see. Constantly peppering Yarde with that jab that he fired from different levels. If Yarde jumped on him early, Kovalev would have capitalised on his mistakes like he did in the 9th round. Yarde was also pressuring him in that round but got walked into clean hard shots. You need to be careful Vs Kovalev in the early rounds or he will put your lights out. Everyone that tried to fight Kov early on has gotten knocked out, it's madness to do that. Yarde has good punching technique going for him and power, but Kovalev is the better boxer with just as much and probably more power. Jump on him early and you jump into a Knockout Blow. You saying I don't know what I'm talking about is ridiculous, you sound like an idiot sorry.
              Probably true. But it was probably his only chance. I think people made too much of Kovalev's recent reluctance to go for the kill after the first Alvarez fight and thought well Yarde's a big tough hard hitting guy that could get lucky.

              But Kovalev boxed very nicely. I don't know why people were surprised by that.

              Yarde's puncher's chance was early but the jab nullified that chance.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by jreckoning View Post
                Probably true. But it was probably his only chance. I think people made too much of Kovalev's recent reluctance to go for the kill after the first Alvarez fight and thought well Yarde's a big tough hard hitting guy that could get lucky.

                But Kovalev boxed very nicely. I don't know why people were surprised by that.

                Yarde's puncher's chance was early but the jab nullified that chance.
                Kovalev is one of the best offensive fighters in the sport. I wasn't surprised at all. But I feel like Yarde had his best chance and he probably couldn't have done any better than he did. Kov always gasses around the 7th and 8th round. It was a good tactic to jump on Kov when he wasn't as sharp anymore. So I disagree on that one

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
                  Kovalev is one of the best offensive fighters in the sport. I wasn't surprised at all. But I feel like Yarde had his best chance and he probably couldn't have done any better than he did. Kov always gasses around the 7th and 8th round. It was a good tactic to jump on Kov when he wasn't as sharp anymore. So I disagree on that one
                  Fair enough. Good post.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
                    How the hell did Yardes team not know about Yardes own stamina levels. Yarde himself is oblivious he has no experience, hes not been really pushed hard and hasnt had to go long hard rounds, he felt like a king and expected the Kovalev fight to feel and pan out like the rest. The truth is he hasnt got a clue, but surely his team should.

                    Hes not done the rounds in the fights, or in sparring apparently which i find hard to believe, hes not been pushed hard or pushed back, hes not felt those energy sapping nerves of a big important fight against a formidable opponent.

                    It was too big of a leap and Yardes version of that style of fighting had serious defensive issues that you should of dealt with and refined in his rise through the the quality of opposition aswell as finding out your stamina isnt quite what it was when you were schooling and knocking out bums. You cant take big inexperienced jumps like that and get away with it unless there is something special about you and Yarde is a good fighter but not good enough to just jump up in class and take down somebody like Kovalev. The mans still green as hell.
                    Because his trainer is more of a Tony Robbins self help guru than an actual boxing trainer. No sparring? How do you know how long you can go? three minute rounds on a heavy bag are good for training, but it's only half the story. Not using your footwork, not evading punches, etc. Yarde had his mouth open wider than Edvard Munch's scream painting sucking air by the fourth round. He had no answer for a jab...it's brutal

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                    • #20
                      You can’t learn stamina but you can accustom yourself to the stamina you have.

                      Case in point Andy Ruiz vs Joshua. Andy only has slightly better stamina than Joshua but Andy knows his limitations and fights within them. Joshua doesn’t and neither did Yarde.

                      Kovalev has learned but hasn’t always known, see Kovalev/Alvarez 1&2.

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