Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Don't Need Spence; Going To HOF With Or Without Him

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  • Mister Wolf
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    #51
    Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
    Bob Arum said he's willing to make the Spence fight if the cut is 50-50.

    It's ridiculous.

    Crawford's PPV numbers are nowhere near Spence is.

    It's the same thing in 2010 when Mayweather vs Pacquiao talks ended.

    Mayweather wanted 60-40 and Manny wanted 50-50, but at that time, in 2008-2010 Manny had the bigger PPV numbers than Floyd did. So it was understandable that Manny wanted 50-50.

    For Crawford, his boss shouldn't even be negotiating about 50-50. His PPV numbers stank and nowhere near Spence's PPV buys.

    The fight is not happening not because someone is ducking someone. That's childish talk. It's always been about the money. Ask Floyd.
    Spence next PPV is about to bomb.

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    • Tosaken
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      #52
      I'm a fan of both guys, and the fight will happen but not yet. Crawford should offer Danny Garcia the fight next, or Thurman to help build the fight with Spence.
      As far as one ducking the other BS talk, neither Crawford or Spence has made an offer to the other yet. Hard to duck someone with no offer being made.

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      • boxrec
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        #53
        Funny to me how Crawford hasn’t faced 1 relevant fighter at 147 and continues to fight NO NAME guys yet he’s constantly mentioned as a top P4 P. He’s a talented fighter but who has he beat ????
        Porter , Paquio , Thurman, ,Spence?? Bob keeps Crawford away from ANY relevant name at 147. SMH.

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        • DeeMoney
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          #54
          Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya
          Another rid**** bowe-lennox lewis profile...why can't boxing follow mma format where the two best fighters go up against each other?
          Too many promoters/networks in boxing, there is no single entity running things (ala NFL, MLB, NBA, UFC, etc).

          Everyone would rather horde their crumbs then share slices of a bigger pie.

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          • ChristianKing
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            #55
            This is the real answer to the question and everyone knew it except Bud who took Bob's money knowing what the outcome would be.

            They will eventually fight but Bud really put himself in this position when he was a free agent. Perhaps PBC didn't offer as much as Top Rank, but they had all the fights that matter, which ultimately leads to the money and career he's begging for now.

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            • ChristianKing
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              #56
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg
              Or you can just sign with the outfit that represents all the best welterweights
              This is the real answer to the question and everyone knew it except Bud who took Bob's money knowing what the outcome would be.

              They will eventually fight but Bud really put himself in this position when he was a free agent. Perhaps PBC didn't offer as much as Top Rank, but they had all the fights that matter, which ultimately leads to the money and career he's begging for now.

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              • FredWreck
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                #57
                Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
                Bob Arum said he's willing to make the Spence fight if the cut is 50-50.

                It's ridiculous.

                Crawford's PPV numbers are nowhere near Spence is.

                It's the same thing in 2010 when Mayweather vs Pacquiao talks ended.

                Mayweather wanted 60-40 and Manny wanted 50-50, but at that time, in 2008-2010 Manny had the bigger PPV numbers than Floyd did. So it was understandable that Manny wanted 50-50.

                For Crawford, his boss shouldn't even be negotiating about 50-50. His PPV numbers stank and nowhere near Spence's PPV buys.

                The fight is not happening not because someone is ducking someone. That's childish talk. It's always been about the money. Ask Floyd.
                Floyd didn’t make the fight with pac in 2010 because he was scared for his health. There’s a video of his admitting it. It wasn’t due to money. Floyd just priced himself out the bid. It would have been a different fight at that time for sure.

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                • dwayne3534
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun
                  Cleaning out a division, undisputed, lineal, P4P. Went to the UK and washed Ricky Burns, but Spence struggled with Kell Brook! What would Terence do to Mickey?! EASY-WORK.
                  First off you just compared Ricky Burns to Kell Brook. Second off he cleaned out the division when all the top guys had just left it. He was to late for Khan Peterson and Danny and to early for Prograis, Taylor, and Ramirez.

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                  • dwayne3534
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                    You caught up in names. Which is a popularity contest. Postol beat Matthysee, stopped him. Matthysee smoked Peterson. What's so great about Spence beating an even older war torn version of Peterson? Why should I rate Peterson as a better fighter than Postol? Based off what?
                    Based off of competition. Peterson fought and beat better guys. He lost to Mattysse at a much different place in Mattysse's career. That's like saying Camacho beat Leonard so how can I say Hearns is better than him.

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                    • Greenfield02
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                      #60
                      If he continues on the same path of fighting less than stellar competition, HOF is a stretch. The paper champs he beat at 140 to become undisputed is not qualifying of the HOF.

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