Why WBC the Real Belt

[YoungManRumble]

I dont wanna quote your massive posts to bog this thread down but thanks for presenting us with all that information Marchegiano

[Real King Kong]

who would have known this thread would be a marketplace for so much passion

this marchegiano guy finally found an appropriate place to trumpet on about his expansive knowledge on an overall useless niche subject.

[New England]

I don't know why y'all expect a different response. You see I've handled this assertions several times. You scrolled right past it. I'm not going to tell you anything I didn't already type out for you to read.

The National Sporting Club, International Boxing Union, and New York State Athletic Commission all still have an official world champion. It is the WBC champion. They are all affiliates of the WBC these days and relinquished their world body status in recognition of the WBC.

So, like I told those other fellows, I'm not a WBC fan per se, they're a body, I don't give a damn about them or the WBA for that matter. I'm just answering the damn question. If you don't like it take it up with the EBU and WBC and ****, but, officially, The WBC World Champion is the EBU World Champion. The EBU is the IBU, the IBU is older than the NBA or WBA. Same goes for the NBC which is now the BBBofC. Their official world ranks and world champions are the WBC's. That's why the WBC and WBC champions claim prestige.


Do I promote the WBC as the prestigious belt or does the WBC and WBC champions? Okay, they probably have an official reason for that right?

Tell me. I'm so wrong, and I can't possibly know the WBC reasoning because the NBA you go ahead and tell me. They explained it at the last WBC convention I was at. I explained it much, much more thoroughly in this thread. Y'all starting to annoy me now.

When you find that post that covers the full history of sanctioning bodies and laws that I wrote let me know if you honestly believe I didn't know about the damn NBA. I highlighted that **** for you.

this is hardly coherent babble. take a deep breath next time, it sounds like you've been working awfully hard over there

you posted thaty the WBC was the oldest sanctioning body and you were wrong. the WBC website literally tells you you're wrong. research doe

stop being a clwon and take your beating like a man. you got sonned on the bscene. it matters.


what is actually an embarrassment is that you claim to be a boxing historian putting in a body of work,a nd you didn't even go to the website of the WBC or ask them when they were founded . when i had media credentials i didn't post on the internet at all, and you bet your ass i would be more thorough than you are when i bragged about them!

In a relatively short time afterwards, Mexico established itself as one of the central places of boxing; the history of Mexican champions began to plant its roots in the sport with some of the finest boxing, as the then President of Mexico, Adolfo López Mateos, decided to create an organization to manage the unification of all world committees to control the spread of the sport called boxing; this is how on February 14, 1963 the World Boxing Council came into existence; initially it was founded by 11 countries: USA, Argentina, England, France, Mexico, Philippines, Panama, Chile, Peru, Venezuela, and Brazil. Its main founders were Mexicans Luis Spota and Professor Ramon G. Velasquez, who were presidents of the World Boxing Council, as well as Onslow Fane, of England, and Justiniano Montano, of The Philippines.

waka waka

[New England]

I dont wanna quote your massive posts to bog this thread down but thanks for presenting us with all that information Marchegiano

tha's a bunch of hot air, dude. the WBC website tells you when they were founded:

1963

[Marchegiano]

this is hardly coherent babble. take a deep breath next time, it sounds like you've been working awfully hard over there

you posted thaty the WBC was the oldest sanctioning body and you were wrong. the WBC website literally tells you you're wrong. research doe

stop being a clwon and take your beating like a man. you got sonned on the bscene. it matters.


what is actually an embarrassment is that you claim to be a boxing historian putting in a body of work,a nd you didn't even go to the website of the WBC or ask them when they were founded . when i had media credentials i didn't post on the internet at all, and you bet your ass i would be more thorough than you are when i bragged about them!

In a relatively short time afterwards, Mexico established itself as one of the central places of boxing; the history of Mexican champions began to plant its roots in the sport with some of the finest boxing, as the then President of Mexico, Adolfo López Mateos, decided to create an organization to manage the unification of all world committees to control the spread of the sport called boxing; this is how on February 14, 1963 the World Boxing Council came into existence; initially it was founded by 11 countries: USA, Argentina, England, France, Mexico, Philippines, Panama, Chile, Peru, Venezuela, and Brazil. Its main founders were Mexicans Luis Spota and Professor Ramon G. Velasquez, who were presidents of the World Boxing Council, as well as Onslow Fane, of England, and Justiniano Montano, of The Philippines.

waka waka

Nope, I did not say the WBC is the oldest body. Y'all know-nothing know-it-alls jump all over what you perceive rather then ever trying to learn anything.

To be honest, I'm beginning to think Kong's the only one of youse with any sense. He got it really quickly.

The WBC has the oldest roots, the NBA is the oldest body. You do some research and figure it out. I gave you all the info.


You still have not posted anything that isn't found in my posts made before you said anything.

Dunno what you expect from me. Yes, I know all about the NBA and formation of the WBC. You're missing something kiddo.


Lastly, again, if not the reason I gave you what is the official reason for the WBC promoting itself on prestige? I'll wait for you to drum up some made up bull**** you pulled outta yer ass.

[Marchegiano]

tha's a bunch of hot air, dude. the WBC website tells you when they were founded:

1963

Challenge something in that post.


Stop being a smartass and you might learn something bubba.

[Marchegiano]

That's not how it works, a governing body is established when the group finally comes together. You don't then lay claim to the roots of your local commissions who are affiliated with it, not even owned by it. The EBU is still a separate but affiliated entity to the WBC, do you not get that? It's not your typical European belt, they just work with the WBC and place their champs in the WBC rankings, usually top 10.

It does work just like that, actually, officially, legally, yep.

The official EBU world champion is the WBC world champion. That's who the EBU recognizes to this day. Same for NBC and NYSAC


As far as ownership goes I make IPs, I'm a patented inventor, you're talking out of your ass and the proof is all around you.

When someone buys a company they do not have to change the company's established date. That's why you have 18th century companies that have been bought and sold a bunch of times since the 1700s.


Hudson's Bay Company is from the 1600s, it was bought at least once in 08. Still founded in the 1600s....****ing duh.


Y'all reaching because you thought you knew something. It's okay, but, it doesn't change the fact that the WBC is currently promoting based on prestige. It doesn't change why either. That is their stance and logic. Dunno what to tell you.


The Official International Boxing Union's world heavyweight champion is Deontay Wilder.

The Official New York State Athletic Commission world heavyweight champion is Deontay Wilder.

The Official National Sporting Club's world heavyweight champion champion is Deontay Wilder.

[Marchegiano]

I dont wanna quote your massive posts to bog this thread down but thanks for presenting us with all that information Marchegiano

:cheers: Appreciate you bud.

this marchegiano guy finally found an appropriate place to trumpet on about his expansive knowledge on an overall useless niche subject.

look above.

It's a lot of work bud, I'm doing y'all a massive favor if y'all're actually interested in sanctioning bodies.

I don't care if you skip or ask for a paraphrase, I enjoyed speaking with you actually. You got it quick. I just like to post the work for guys like me who need to know more because if you're gonna try to do that research and write that report you're in for quite the sit and read. What I posted is massively shortened from what I had to read to attain those facts.

Each paragraph is relatively short it's just a ****load of history covered. To the right folks it'll mean something. At least you don't have to buy books and **** to read that **** what I posted.

[Real King Kong]

:cheers: Appreciate you bud.



look above.

It's a lot of work bud, I'm doing y'all a massive favor if y'all're actually interested in sanctioning bodies.

I don't care if you skip or ask for a paraphrase, I enjoyed speaking with you actually. You got it quick. I just like to post the work for guys like me who need to know more because if you're gonna try to do that research and write that report you're in for quite the sit and read. What I posted is massively shortened from what I had to read to attain those facts.

Each paragraph is relatively short it's just a ****load of history covered. To the right folks it'll mean something. At least you don't have to buy books and **** to read that **** what I posted.

what I get is, the wba is older than the wbc...you're talking about something else.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

I think the WBO belt is probably the least tainted one, that's the only one I can think of right now that doesn't have some controversy or scandal attached to it (that I know of.)

When Bob Arum went public about all of the bribes he paid to the WBA, he explained how it all worked, who you had to pay the money to, etc.

That person was banned for life by the WBA for operating the bribery ring.

Having been kicked out of the WBA for taking bribes for years, he started the WBO.