Who is the most terrible boxer out there skills-wise?

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  • BangEM
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
    If we’re talking about title holders, I’d pick Wilder. If Joshua can win his titles back, he’s probably number two.
    Nah, AJ is one of the better boxers in boxing. His fundamentals are decent. I'd pick over 1000 boxers before I get to AJ. He just doesn't use his jab that well and he tends to always let outside noise get to him in the ring, thus affecting his ring IQ sometimes.

    The only two times I've seen AJ straw away from his fundamentals are the Charles martin and Ruiz fights. In the Charles martin fight, I don't even think he threw one jab in that fight. He basically just bulldozed his way to victory. And he was gonna do the same thing against Ruiz - but the lucky punch from the gods changed the story.

    Wilder on the other hand is just terrible. His fundamentals are utter poor. Wilder doesn't even throw punches the right way, for fu..ck sake. LMAO.

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    • DumpkinsPlus5
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      #12
      Look at the "experts" in here talking about "skills." Ya'll don't even know what ya'll mean by skills, just throwing it out there at fighters you don't like.

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        #13
        Wilder looks like some random dude off the street who's took a boxing class for 6 months.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Slicc
          You're probably more skilled than Deontay Wilder, let alone Charles Martin. He beat a paper champ for that WBC strap, got out-boxed for at least 9 of those 12 rounds against Fury and got knocked down by Harold Sconiers. Wilder gets by on strength and heart. He's one of, if not the least skilled world champion right now.
          Fury pretty much outboxed him for 12 rounds. Even in the 12th Fury was beating him after the KD.

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          • chirorickyp
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            #15
            Originally posted by Slicc
            You're probably more skilled than Deontay Wilder, let alone Charles Martin. He beat a paper champ for that WBC strap, got out-boxed for at least 9 of those 12 rounds against Fury and got knocked down by Harold Sconiers. Wilder gets by on strength and heart. He's one of, if not the least skilled world champion right now.
            You're right in comparison to Floyd, Ali or Robinson. However, if it was strength and heart then Lebron James would go 12 rds with Fury. Or your strip joint bouncer would win 4 rounds against Fury and knock him down twice. If it were just strength and heart he would have been KO'd a long time ago by lesser opponents. He's a scary devastating fighter. The best straight right ever is all technique. Knowing distance and when to set up the big punch is technique.

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              #16
              Originally posted by chirorickyp
              You're right in comparison to Floyd, Ali or Robinson. However, if it was strength and heart then Lebron James would go 12 rds with Fury.
              Bruh, Floyd, Ali and Robinson are in a completely different universe compared to nearly every boxer today. Wilder has less skill than the average boxer, let alone those 3 legends. The only reason Wilder even made it to the final round, is because Fury doesn't have much power at the highest level. For fuck's sake, it took the guy over 11 rounds just to stun Wilder, after having tagged him over and over throughout the match.

              Originally posted by chirorickyp
              The best straight right ever is all technique. Knowing distance and when to set up the big punch is technique.
              Set up what? Fury dodged his 1-2 nearly every time it flew at him. Wilder hardly ever sets up his right hand. He literally just steps in, throws the jab and follows it up with the straight right hand. It's one of the most predictable tactics in the book, which is why Fury was able to avoid it as often as he did. He's a one trick pony, but got away with it for most of his career, because most of his opponents were panhandlers, gender studies professors and window washers.

              Claiming that Charles Martin is less skilled than Wilder, of all people, is laughable. Martin would still probably get bodied by Wilder, because it's nigh-on impossible to avoid getting hit cleanly for 12 rounds, but he'd more than likely make the guy look ****** until he gets caught. Wilder's style can only work in the heavyweight division because a) it's been sus ever since Lewis retired and b) most of them are big, slow targets compared to the smaller weight divisions.

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                #17
                He has a good amateur record and Olympics medal surely you can find someone worse than that who is active right now

                Chisora maybe David Allen or whoever else you lot watch on skysport box office on Saturday nights
                Last edited by Phenom; 08-19-2019, 09:43 PM.

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                  #18
                  margarito has to be up there. Almost no defense

                  How did margarito have fans

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                  • elfag
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                    #19
                    Of current famous fighters, Id say Chavez Jr is the most unskilled.

                    His whole career was a joke, mexicans paid to see him for the name. He was carefully matched vs undersized opponents and any time hes stepped up he has failed.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Slicc
                      Bruh, Floyd, Ali and Robinson are in a completely different universe compared to nearly every boxer today. Wilder has less skill than the average boxer, let alone those 3 legends. The only reason Wilder even made it to the final round, is because Fury doesn't have much power at the highest level. For fuck's sake, it took the guy over 11 rounds just to stun Wilder, after having tagged him over and over throughout the match.


                      Set up what? Fury dodged his 1-2 nearly every time it flew at him. Wilder hardly ever sets up his right hand. He literally just steps in, throws the jab and follows it up with the straight right hand. It's one of the most predictable tactics in the book, which is why Fury was able to avoid it as often as he did. He's a one trick pony, but got away with it for most of his career, because most of his opponents were panhandlers, gender studies professors and window washers.

                      Claiming that Charles Martin is less skilled than Wilder, of all people, is laughable. Martin would still probably get bodied by Wilder, because it's nigh-on impossible to avoid getting hit cleanly for 12 rounds, but he'd more than likely make the guy look ****** until he gets caught. Wilder's style can only work in the heavyweight division because a) it's been sus ever since Lewis retired and b) most of them are big, slow targets compared to the smaller weight divisions.
                      I"m not dissing you, you know your stuff. But lets tell it like it is, less than a Charles Martin. That's a comment based on you not liking the guy not reality based. Charles Martin????? C'mon man! You of all people know that's not true. The guys a beast and everyone knows it. He hurts and or stops everyone.Dangerous man. And that's why you will watch him again. The punch WILL land. Quit lying to yourself. You know better you know the game well.

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