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  • Mammoth
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Thats a lot lower of a guy then I expected them to be looking at. I was thinking David Price was bottom of the barrel.

    And damn that guy has been boxing longer than I thought. He lost to Mount Whitaker back in the day. Mfer turned pro at 17.
    Who's available though? The division is kind of thin.

    I'd try Christian Hammer.......

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    • PBR Streetgang
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dasmius Shinobi
      For the zillion time, I said the perfect fight for Usyk to wet his feet in the heavyweight division is to fight the rematch vs Michael Hunter. The problem is Michael Hunter is going to fight Sergey Kuzmin.
      That first fight was pretty competitive and Hunter has been a HW since. He's more comfortable at the weight I would imagine, that might be a tough one for Usyk's entry into the division. I may be in the minority but I think Hunter is the real deal and dangerous for any HW.

      I also expect Hunter to beat Kuzmin.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Mammoth
        Who's available though? The division is kind of thin.

        I'd try Christian Hammer.......
        David seems perfect to me. Falls nice. Gets some hype on Usyk's HW power potential. Hammer isn't awful by any means.

        Definitely didn't forsee Fedosov being the guy or even on the shortlist doe I know that much.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          David seems perfect to me. Falls nice. Gets some hype on Usyk's HW power potential. Hammer isn't awful by any means.

          Definitely didn't forsee Fedosov being the guy or even on the shortlist doe I know that much.
          Idk Fedosov would give a better account of himself than Pricey

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            #15
            Originally posted by Mammoth
            Idk Fedosov would give a better account of himself than Pricey
            Idk that either is gonna do much on the giving a good account of themselves front vs Usyk. David falls pretty doe so I put him ahead for that reason plus I think he's higher ranked these days.

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              #16
              Kabayel?

              Damn, not looking like many options out there.....

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                #17
                Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
                That first fight was pretty competitive and Hunter has been a HW since. He's more comfortable at the weight I would imagine, that might be a tough one for Usyk's entry into the division. I may be in the minority but I think Hunter is the real deal and dangerous for any HW.

                I also expect Hunter to beat Kuzmin.

                I remember that first fight, I was saying in my mind, what the fuck!!! when I saw Usyk receiving unnecessary shots. I enjoyed that fight to the fullest. Then, Michael Hunter improved each fight he fought in his current run in the heavyweight division. I notice that Michael Hunter took something from that fight with Usyk that is helping him in the run of the heavyweight division. Hunter is not the same fighter when he was in the cruiser-weight division, he better now in the heavyweight. You are not completely in the minority here, there is something that stand out in Hunter that make him risky to fight. Maybe his fight with Sergey Kuzmin, can answer some question and shed some light to where he stand. I still feel Usyk can win a clear decision in his heavyweight debut against Michael in another competitive fight. Usyk is improving each fight also. My only concern is that injury he got training. I hope that injury don't haunt him in the heavyweight division.


                Your assessment is valid and I can get wrong. We know boxing turn unpredictable sometimes.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mammoth
                  Idk Fedosov would give a better account of himself than Pricey
                  Fedesov might give a better account of himself but I'm not sure it would be as entertaining of a fight. I remember Fedesov on Boxcino or something and he seemed solid and tough but unspectacular. He'd probably just get outclassed over rounds without going for the win.

                  Price is big and throws big shots which can leave big openings. His size and power would make him a little dangerous for the first few rounds but he'd gas and get sloppy and get hit. That's more entertaining.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    David.
                    For a cruiserweight coming up who is not a KO artist, David is high risk zero reward. David's weakness is punch resistance. A cruiserweight is not the best equipped to exploit that weakness. David's strength is size and power. A cruiserweight is worst equipped to deal with that strength. It's like prime Amir Khan vs Floyd or something. Floyd was the better boxer but style wise Khan might have been the one to beat him for only the second time (Castillo). Unlike Price, Khan still had a good reputation especially vs boxers, and a big name, so Floyd still should have fought him, and IMO he ducked him, but that's just a good comparison to this situation.

                    And if Usyk beats Price, he gets no credit, cuz it's just David Price. But if he doesn't box perfect for 12 rounds vs Price, gets caught once, and loses, it derails his career.

                    Usyk is already going to have to roll the dice that he can pitch perfect games vs the likes of Joshua, Wilder, even Fury might have the power to really hurt him... but if he does, he will get a lot of credit, and a lot of money. So it's worth it, and that's what he needs to do to build his legacy at heavyweight. But why take a similar risk on the way there? Survivng 12 rounds with Price might be already 70% as difficult for Usyk as surviving 12 rounds with Joshua, except instead of still getting 70% as much credit and money, he will get more like 1% as much credit and 10% as much money.

                    It's not worth it. With that said, Usyk should fight someone good his first opponent, just not a 6'9 guy with a huge punch in Price in Usyk's first heavyweight fight. Either fight a 6'9 guy without a punch, or fight someone more like Whyte or Chisora who have punches but aren't as big.

                    Povetkin would still make decent sense.

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                      #20
                      "considering their man has been away from the ring since October and returning from an injury." That is why they want him. That and Fedosov is not very good and is shorter and with less reach.

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