Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis revisited

[Vegemil]

OP is slamming McCall while ignoring Joshua got dropped 4 damn times by a fat boy

I think he's saying everybody slamming AJ don't remember how Lennox used to look either.

[4truth]

LMAO! The same McCall that couldn't beat Bruno? LOL. Buster Douglas and Michael Hunter's dad beat McCall for fu..ck sake. If you think McCall beats AJ, then you definitely think Chisora beats AJ...that's how delusional you're.

Emanuel Steward's Lennox vs AJ at this stage is probably 6-4 or I might give you 7-3. But AJ will beat the 29-yr old Lennox that fought McCall every single day and on a Sunday, lol. He won't just beat him - he'll spark him out cold.

McCall, unfortunately, had drug issues. He lost fights he should not have lost.

Joshua is a muscle car with the fuel tank of a moped. Joshua can't hurt McCall as he could not hurt Ruiz.

Chisora does not have a great chin so what he has to do with anything I do not know.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Dude Lewis had beaten Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker and Donovan Ruddock before losing to McCall.

It’s not insane to think he would have beaten Joshua.

And Oliver McCall was actually a very good fighter. He beat Larry Holmes the fight after he beat Lennox Lewis. He also beat Fres Oquendo. In fact, McCall is still fighting, is 59-14 and has never really been knocked out.

McCall could have totally beaten Joshua too!!!

[juggernaut666]

Most of the idiots on here are either PBC bots or Hearn bots, they don't watch boxing.

That Lennox who fought McCall at age 29 would've been chewed and destroyed by AJ. He was wild, poor, and he kept dropping his right every time he threw his jab. Lennox also had a way of throwing a jab and leaving his hand up there for ages. A guy like Povetkin whose money shot is the overhand right would've sparked Lennox out as well. And that's the Lennox these idiots think would've beaten AJ, lool.

Emanuel Steward definitely saved Lennox and even with that he was boring as hell. He was the Wlad before Wlad, with jab jab grab and uppercut. And the only time he came out to fight against Ray Mercer - his two eyes were badly swollen and that fight could've gone either way.

Just rewatching the Ray Mercer fight since it's similar based on height and reach difference when compared to Ruiz and AJ - I don't think Lennox has anything to teach AJ. He had by far the reach advantage and Mercer out-jabbed him all night long and was landing big shots after big shots at will. Both of them were definitely juiced to grill with the amount of punishment they both took in that fight.

I was going to bring that up Ruiz/Mercer.

Would be great fight .


Lewis can teach Joshua different jab set ups and different outputs when thrown but that's about it.

One thing about Joshua hes stronger faster and a better inside fighter then Lewis ,so it makes for Lewis who would relie on hold and hit he was a very dirty fighter,go watch(REALLY ) watch all his fights you'll see a bunch of hold and hits on the inside. Most will argue but that's how the cut from vitali happened if you CATCH it. People have very selective memory and don't want to remember Lewis was most effective with clinching and leaning on guys with the size difference mostly ,under steward he wore em down then boxed ,and repeat.

Lewis a very SAVVY fighter and had Steward that has to be remember but Joshuas win over wlad told me all I needed to make him a live threat against anyone to lace them up.Idiots don't understand fighters progress rapidly through the 20/30 fights ,if they didn't Lewis and Klitschko would have retired with L's.

[BangEM]

Dude Lewis had beaten Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker and Donovan Ruddock before losing to McCall.

It’s not insane to think he would have beaten Joshua.

And Oliver McCall was actually a very good fighter. He beat Larry Holmes the fight after he beat Lennox Lewis. He also beat Fres Oquendo. In fact, McCall is still fighting, is 59-14 and has never really been knocked out.

McCall could have totally beaten Joshua too!!!

LMAO! You're obviously a troll.

[BangEM]

I was going to bring that up Ruiz/Mercer.

Would be great fight .


Lewis can teach Joshua different jab set ups and different outputs when thrown but that's about it.

One thing about Joshua hes stronger faster and a better inside fighter then Lewis ,so it makes for Lewis who would relie on hold and hit he was a very dirty fighter,go watch(REALLY ) watch all his fights you'll see a bunch of hold and hits on the inside. Most will argue but that's how the cut from vitali happened if you CATCH it. People have very selective memory and don't want to remember Lewis was most effective with clinching and leaning on guys with the size difference mostly ,under steward he wore em down then boxed ,and repeat.

Lewis a very SAVVY fighter and had Steward that has to be remember but his win over wlad told me all I needed to make him a live threat against anyone to lace them up.Idiots don't understand fighters progress rapidly through the 20/30 fights ,if they didn't Lewis and Klitschko would have retired with L's.

I'd agree that Lennox became very savvy under Steward, especially with the clinching/leaning technique. And that's something AJ still don't know how to do at this stage of his career. Clinching/leaning would've saved AJ against Ruiz, after he was out on his feet. He probably would've been able to ride that fight till the end without the knock downs with clinching/leaning because Ruiz wasn't really hurting him with those flurries, apart from the two body shots in the 7th rd. And probably with the jab as well because the way Lennox snaps his jab was world class and super-effective.

But AJ and Lennox aren't really miles apart. And I'll always take AJ at 29 over Lennox at 29 every day of the week. 29-yr old Lennox was just too sloppy, wild and chinny. AJ will destroy that guy.

Ruiz and Mercer is definitely a great dream matchup. Mercer might be one of the most underrated heavyweights of all time.

How come Mike Tyson never fought Ray Mercer? That would've been a GREAT fight.

[Sun_Tzu]

Ive said many times Manny Steward turned Lennox into an ATG. He had terrible footwork, balance and bad technique before Manny. Had Manny not picked him up he would be a footnote in the nineties.

[BangEM]

Ive said many times Manny Steward turned Lennox into an ATG. He had terrible footwork, balance and bad technique before Manny. Had Manny not picked him up he would be a footnote in the nineties.

Pre Manny Steward Lennox Lewis vs AJ, who would you choose?

[Sun_Tzu]

Pre Manny Steward Lennox Lewis vs AJ, who would you choose?

Who ever landed first. AJ might be a little more stable than Lewis was at that point but Lewis could **** no doubt. It may have actually been a boring fight with both trading jabs being leary of each others power.

[juggernaut666]

I'd agree that Lennox became very savvy under Steward, especially with the clinching/leaning technique. And that's something AJ still don't know how to do at this stage of his career. Clinching/leaning would've saved AJ against Ruiz, after he was out on his feet. He probably would've been able to ride that fight till the end without the knock downs with clinching/leaning because Ruiz wasn't really hurting him with those flurries, apart from the two body shots in the 7th rd. And probably with the jab as well because the way Lennox snaps his jab was world class and super-effective.

But AJ and Lennox aren't really miles apart. And I'll always take AJ at 29 over Lennox at 29 every day of the week. 29-yr old Lennox was just too sloppy, wild and chinny. AJ will destroy that guy.

Ruiz and Mercer is definitely a great dream matchup. Mercer might be one of the most underrated heavyweights of all time.

How come Mike Tyson never fought Ray Mercer? That would've been a GREAT fight.

M.Tyson was in prison at the rise of Mercer .He wasn't out until late 95 and wasn't on his radar, Holyfield was. Mercer had already lost to Lewis in 96.

Id take 29 AJ as well.