Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz: I Have Not Signed Anything Yet, I Want Rematch in NY!

[VislorTurlough]

Eddie behavior is sketchy. Tells us It’s not nailed down. Why make the announcement with neither fighter there? What’s the hurry? Sketchy and shifty.

[andocom]

I don't agree with reneging on contracts. However, I can't imagine a rematch where the loser dictates everything in the next fight. It's nonsensical.

What's the problem with Hearn announcing the fight then? This is a serious question. Maybe there's no location agreement, as well as some other stuff?

I don't understand your question, Hearn has announced the fight date and location?

You understand the rematch clause only dictates the obligations of the winner, thats its only purpose, it was a one way rematch clause. So it dictates what the challenger's obligations are in the event he wins in a voluntary, everything in the rematch clause is about what Ruiz has to do. Hearn wrote that contract, why wouldn't he (or anyone in his position) give themselves the choice of location, and a flat fee etc. You think Ruiz was in any position to really complain, he got the golden ticket with the first fight. It is what it is.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

I assume Eddie is telling the truth about the terms of the contract.

LMAO this made me laugh.
If the terms of the contract were ironclad
then Hearn would have announced the rematch taking place
in Cardiff weeks/months ago! I don't have access to the
contract but I can only assume that if Hearn had the power
to dictate everything then he would not have been trying
to appease Ruiz' demands in the first place. Hearn would have
done as he wanted from the beginning. Ruiz' lawyers must
have found that the wording of the contract gives Ruiz some
amount of say in the final location of the rematch.

[Corelone]

Someone tell fatty he won't be able to buy anymore burritos if he doesn't honor the contract. That might incentivize him.

From the land of spotted ****.

[REDEEMER]

Haymon isn’t a fool. Something’s up

And Hearn is ? Do you really think the press conference was fake because it requires the opposition signature and would be in deep trouble with no contract sent to the other sanctioned bodies as well . The only thing that could happen is a fake injury on Ruiz part which will.end up as a interim title fight for AJ if that's All plan he will accomplish nothing.

[Monty Fisto]

I don't agree with reneging on contracts. However, I can't imagine a rematch where the loser dictates everything in the next fight. It's nonsensical.

What's the problem with Hearn announcing the fight then? This is a serious question. Maybe there's no location agreement, as well as some other stuff?

The rematch was in the original contract. By definition, it would only come into play in the contingency of Joshua being the loser. It was negotiated, however, in the context of Joshua as the unified champion and biggest box office draw in HW boxing and Ruiz as a modestly-rated contender. Which is to say, with Ruiz having very little negotiating power. In hindsight, you find it difficult to imagine a rematch where the loser dictates everything, but the terms were agreed as a job lot. Joshua offered Ruiz a shot at his his titles, along with several million dollars, but with the agreement that if Ruiz should win he would give a rematch on certain terms favourable to Joshua. Ruiz agreed. If it goes to court, Ruiz is unlikely to have a leg to stand on. If it goes to court, Ruiz loses big and Hearn and Joshua are inconvenienced. I assume Ruiz is counting on Hearn/Joshua wanting to avoid that inconvenience enough to throw him a bone or two beyond what is in the contract he agreed to originally.

[sinisterbehavior]

Regardless of the outcome of the fight negotiations, this makes me skeptical of a superfight ever happening with Joshua. He is coming off a loss, and granted he is the draw, but still, his team just seems to have very poor negotiation tactics largely done through the media. I hope Ruiz pulls it off so we can see Wilder, Fury and Ruiz all battle.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The rematch was in the original contract. By definition, it would only come into play in the contingency of Joshua being the loser. It was negotiated, however, in the context of Joshua as the unified champion and biggest box office draw in HW boxing and Ruiz as a modestly-rated contender. Which is to say, with Ruiz having very little negotiating power. In hindsight, you find it difficult to imagine a rematch where the loser dictates everything, but the terms were agreed as a job lot. Joshua offered Ruiz a shot at his his titles, along with several million dollars, but with the agreement that if Ruiz should win he would give a rematch on certain terms favourable to Joshua. Ruiz agreed. If it goes to court, Ruiz is unlikely to have a leg to stand on. If it goes to court, Ruiz loses big and Hearn and Joshua are inconvenienced. I assume Ruiz is counting on Hearn/Joshua wanting to avoid that inconvenience enough to throw him a bone or two beyond what is in the contract he agreed to originally.

Smart post. Green K, and thank you.
So, what is Hearn waiting for?

[LacedUp]

I don't agree with reneging on contracts. However, I can't imagine a rematch where the loser dictates everything in the next fight. It's nonsensical.

What's the problem with Hearn announcing the fight then? This is a serious question. Maybe there's no location agreement, as well as some other stuff?

I think it's pretty standard throughout history, whether rightly or wrongly.

I think Hearn did announce the fight; but on the basis of the signature put on the first contract which states that the promoter (matchroom) decides the time and place of the rematch and should let Ruiz know within a certain time frame.

That's my expectation. I do not think Ruiz has signed a contract for the rematch other than the one he's already signed, I just think he's being told where to go and what to do.

Kind of a power move by both people. Matchroom trying to put Ruiz in a corner where it's either fight or lawsuit and Ruiz is trying to not do anything and either Matchroom will agree to his demands or risk losing the belts.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out. My guess is that Ruiz will end up getting more money.

[SHO_RULEZ]

Is this guy coming off as a frightened crybaby?! Geez, you signed a freakin' contract, you HAVE to fight this man again...