Pacquiao Achievements is untouchable...

[pasawayako]

You're just bumping the thread because you're Filipino and you love Pac lol. I'm out lmao...

You just can't name a single boxer from the past to present that can match pac Achievements... lmao.

[Real King Kong]

that is all you needed to say

fk lineage... what a joke

it is clearly obvious that the lineal champ is often not the best guy in his division... so who cares about lineage

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

The Ring ranked Canelo the #1 middleweight on the planet... despite the fact that he had never weighed more than 155, and despite the fact that he had never faced a middleweight opponent

about the same time, they ranked Adonis Stevenson #1 ahead of Kovalev... all because of lineage

lineage is just plain silly, and completely irrelevant

FACT: triangle theories do not work in boxing

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

Well who was better at 126, 130, 140 than Barrera Marquez and Hatton when pac beat them? I agree that the lineal title holder is sometimes not the best in the division, but sometimes they are...any knowledgeable fan should be able to sort that out.

Canelo beat the man who beat the man, simple as that. If there was only one belt per division, he would have been the mw champion. Did I feel that he was the best mw...no, but he went on to prove he’s right there if not the clear cut best. Sometimes, even the champion isn’t the best guy, which is proven when they lose the title.

Even in the one champ per division era where the lineage was easy to follow, it sometimes became foggy when fighters retired or vacated to move to another division and a new lineage needed to be established. Not to mention all the great fighters who were frozen out of title shots.

Bottom line is, it’s often up to fans to decide who’s the best...sometimes it’s some belt holder, sometimes it’s the lineal champ, and sometimes it’s a guy with no titles at all. You can never make a blanket statement that one distinction overrides another. I mean, here you wanna praise alphabet titles and trash lineal titles but at the same time say it’s about “who did you beat”. Was David Diaz a better win than Barrera?

[pasawayako]

like I told you on the other thread...

a 5-division champ, who fought the best 5 times... is much better than a 6-division champ who only fought the best once

there were 6 opponents that Pacquiao could not beat

there was NOBODY that Mayweather could not beat

Achievements is the result of how good u are...

Yap pac has losses some are robberies, fkoyd had no losses but u have to thank the vegas judges for that.. lmao..

At the end of the day u will be recognized on how much u achieved in your career...

[pasawayako]

that is all you needed to say

fk lineage... what a joke

it is clearly obvious that the lineal champ is often not the best guy in his division... so who cares about lineage

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

The Ring ranked Canelo the #1 middleweight on the planet... despite the fact that he had never weighed more than 155, and despite the fact that he had never faced a middleweight opponent

about the same time, they ranked Adonis Stevenson #1 ahead of Kovalev... all because of lineage

lineage is just plain silly, and completely irrelevant

FACT: triangle theories do not work in boxing

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

if the lineage title isn't the best then those fake belts champion are all scrubs.....

[kdd]

if the lineage title isn't the best then those fake belts champion are all scrubs.....

*** lineal, *** champions, *** everything..*** WINS too..that dont matter.. these *****s will sound freakin idiots just to dicredit what you cant discredit..*****s need to watch mma or something..like max kellerman says..you cant have a logcial agruments with floyd fans..im sorry./..you cant

[Jedi Vader]

.. I suggest you watch the video... There is plenty of them on YouTube where you can see with your own eyes who landed the harder and more punches...

Anyway even with floyd gift win he couldn't even come close to pac Achievements...

You said that Floyd barely touched Pac.

So again, I ask you, how is that so, looking at those stats?

[pasawayako]

*** lineal, *** champions, *** everything..*** WINS too..that dont matter.. these *****s will sound freakin idiots just to dicredit what you cant discredit..*****s need to watch mma or something..like max kellerman says..you cant have a logcial agruments with floyd fans..im sorry./..you cant

Yeah, these floyd fans will twist everything just to make floyd look great or make pac wins or Achievements look weak.....

[pasawayako]

You said that Floyd barely touched Pac.

So again, I ask you, how is that so, looking at those stats?

those are rigged punch stats, please watch the video and remove floyd glasses and u will see why so many people think pac won the fight.....

[pasawayako]

FACT: it happened

you can continue crying if you want

Yeah IT HAPPENDED.

Are all pac Achievements didn't happen?

[Jedi Vader]

those are rigged punch stats, please watch the video and remove floyd glasses and u will see why so many people think pac won the fight.....

I've seen the video and I saw Floyd school Pac, easily.

Even when I present facts, you deny them.

You seriously need to see a doctor. Just what has Floyds' victory really done to your life.