Who Got Next at WW? Jarron Ennis or Vergil Ortiz Jr

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  • KTFOKING
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    #11
    Originally posted by kidbazooka
    “Slick boxers” is another word for *****h made *******.

    No one likes them fairy’s.

    Vergil fuuckks Ennis or any other “slickster” up.
    Ennis isn't really a slickster. He will stand in the pocket and ****. I mean he doesn't get hit much and has very good reflexes, but he's not going to move all that much.

    Really intriguing to see how the WW division plays out in the next few years.

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      #12
      I think I like Ortiz chances better at 140 than 147 so yea I gotta pick Ennis even if I think Ortiz has proven more thus far.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        I think I like Ortiz chances better at 140 than 147 so yea I gotta pick Ennis even if I think Ortiz has proven more thus far.
        Really wanted to see him against Hooker. Thought he would beat him NOW.

        But Ortiz is a big kid that will eventually be fighting at 154. Still has a bright future regardless of if he is at 140 or 147.

        Just an overall good kid and very talented fighter. Been a favorite of mine since he turned pro.

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          #14
          Ennis is more well rounded and skilled overall.

          Orozco was probably literally up on the scorecards against Ortiz before getting stopped.

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            #15
            Originally posted by lolpz
            Ennis is more well rounded and skilled overall.

            Orozco was probably literally up on the scorecards against Ortiz before getting stopped.
            There is NO chance Orozco was up on the scorecards.

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              #16
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Really wanted to see him against Hooker. Thought he would beat him NOW.

              But Ortiz is a big kid that will eventually be fighting at 154. Still has a bright future regardless of if he is at 140 or 147.

              Just an overall good kid and very talented fighter. Been a favorite of mine since he turned pro.
              I just don't know about him doing all that well vs Bud or Spence. And he's in line for them now.

              He should be 12mos or less from a 140 title shot right now not trying to get in line for these bad mfers at WW.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                I just don't know about him doing all that well vs Bud or Spence. And he's in line for them now.

                He should be 12mos or less from a 140 title shot right now not trying to get in line for these bad mfers at WW.
                Talking about Ortiz? I don't think Spence is a candidate to fight him. He's gone from the WW division after 2020. I think he tries to get Pacquiao and Crawford and then moves up.

                Crawford will stay at 147 for longer or he may follow Spence up to 154 after their fight. We shall see there.

                But I think Ennis by next year will be able to compete with both Spence and Crawford. Don't know if he gets either of them, but he's that type of talent.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  There is NO chance Orozco was up on the scorecards.
                  You can argue he won like 3 out of the first 5 rounds.

                  He definitely won 2 lol. Ortiz just won his rounds much bigger then Orozco and had a huge 6th, that's why the punch stats looked that way.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by lolpz
                    You can argue he won like 3 out of the first 5 rounds.

                    He definitely won 2 lol. Ortiz just won his rounds much bigger then Orozco and had a huge 6th, that's why the punch stats looked that way.
                    I had it 4-1 Ortiz heading into the 6th round. Some folks were just giving Orozco too much credit as the best shots were still being landed by Ortiz.

                    Does anyone know the official scorecards? HIGHLY doubt Orozco was up on any scorecards, let alone up on two of the scorecards.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      Talking about Ortiz? I don't think Spence is a candidate to fight him. He's gone from the WW division after 2020. I think he tries to get Pacquiao and Crawford and then moves up.

                      Crawford will stay at 147 for longer or he may follow Spence up to 154 after their fight. We shall see there.

                      But I think Ennis by next year will be able to compete with both Spence and Crawford. Don't know if he gets either of them, but he's that type of talent.
                      I think Ennis is behind Ortiz in accomplishments so idk that Ennis will see Spence either if Spence has got give or take 16 months left. Sh^t thats 3 fights max. So Shawn, ideally Manny & ideally Bud & he gone.

                      Ennis needs some bigger wins still before he's on the shortlist.

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