Why do internet Americans hate Anthony Joshua so much?

[BangEM]

Well the first thing is you are perpetuating a stereotype that a few Brits perpetuate here. I otherwise have no problem with such posters though if you guys really thought it through you might be a little more sensitive, and intelligent about your intended criticism. But before we "go there" you are sadly mistaken about Lewis. Lewis absolutely was subject to incredible bias when he was, quite obviously very talented and able. Even after Lewis accomplished considerably more than Joshua he was still castigated and if memory serves correct, until he beat Rahman Larry Merchant and others claimed they would like to see him against an American Heavyweight. Ridiculous as it was to say this, and this was one example.

Heres your problem: you are talking for the most part about casuals. Real boxing fans do not look and judge a fighter by their lilt, their ethnicity, etc. There are casual fans who support the media coaxed fighters in all countries. Then there are fans who look at talent, and other such indicators.

Also keep in mind that there has been a good natured rivalry involving British and American fighters for the better part of boxing. There were trainers back in the 1800's talking about British fighters being too upright, not savage enough, and not using the power hand enough and some of these trainers were Brits themselves. And there were also stereotypes about Irish fighters and drinking, etc.

Great fighters will always be great fighters. Lewis proved himself as such and Joshua will have the same opportunity to do so as a talented fighter in the mix.

This is just revisionism. Americans never liked Lennox Lewis until after he defeated all the best heavyweights the US had to offer in that era and they had no legs to stand on. He was called glass jaw, gay etc., and that's for a guy spent over half of his career fighting in the US. The hate for Lennox Lewis was so bad that the politics kept him out of making big money in big fights against the 4 big American heavyweights of that era (Tyson, Foreman, Holyfield and Bowe). Lennox was treated like an outsider and even when Bowe refused to fight him - Americans supported Bowe (similar to how Americans stay supporting Wilder despite the fact that he is the one ducking AJ).

When AJ destroys Wilder in a one-sided fight where Wilder is going to get beaten from pillar to post, they won't have any other choice than to bow down to him. And it's going to happen before the end of next year.

[juggernaut666]

Well the first thing is you are perpetuating a stereotype that a few Brits perpetuate here. I otherwise have no problem with such posters though if you guys really thought it through you might be a little more sensitive, and intelligent about your intended criticism. But before we "go there" you are sadly mistaken about Lewis. Lewis absolutely was subject to incredible bias when he was, quite obviously very talented and able. Even after Lewis accomplished considerably more than Joshua he was still castigated and if memory serves correct, until he beat Rahman Larry Merchant and others claimed they would like to see him against an American Heavyweight. Ridiculous as it was to say this, and this was one example.

Heres your problem: you are talking for the most part about casuals. Real boxing fans do not look and judge a fighter by their lilt, their ethnicity, etc. There are casual fans who support the media coaxed fighters in all countries. Then there are fans who look at talent, and other such indicators.

Also keep in mind that there has been a good natured rivalry involving British and American fighters for the better part of boxing. There were trainers back in the 1800's talking about British fighters being too upright, not savage enough, and not using the power hand enough and some of these trainers were Brits themselves. And there were also stereotypes about Irish fighters and drinking, etc.

Great fighters will always be great fighters. Lewis proved himself as such and Joshua will have the same opportunity to do so as a talented fighter in the mix.

Lewis would have been hounded in a social media era and that's not even counting his losses. imagine the mentality of todays fans/ forum audience ? We see it now with Joshua but the difference is he has several title defenses against far tougher ranked guys straight away.

I know how much he was disliked ( Lewis ) I remember just in the gym at the time in the poconos back in those 90's days guys used to grill him and the division ,funny when he showed up everyone somehow had a different tune ? I cant imagine why ? lol

[BangEM]

Joshua has nobody's respect but yours and Hearns at the moment, lmao. Joshua puts on a Thobe and a rich ******s says here's 30 mil fight here, you can cheat all you want lmao.

Your new superhero name is "ExcuseMan". You tell more lies than the devil, able to swallow big plates of bull**** in a single sitting. More powerful than a Professor Klumps fart. Lmao.

You better pray that Joshua wins the rematch. Pray mofo...

Wilder is the one who needs to keep praying, else how is he going to get his big payday? Fury won't give him that type of money. And he's too limited to take risks because he's going to get knocked out cold soon by one of the contenders since he can't keep fighting 59-yr old Ortiz and bums like Breazeale forever.

[billeau2]

You're right about Hearn not giving a fu..ck about AJ or any boxer out there. Promoters don't care about boxers and it's all business. However, the problem with most Americans is that they can't separate the promoter from the boxer when in most cases they're always two en****** and the same is applicable to Arum and the unnecessary hate Crawford tends to get from American boxing fans.

AJ knows Hearn doesn't care about him and he's hands on with his image/himself albeit he's laid back.

Ok glad that you recognize that fact...

[billeau2]

This is just revisionism. Americans never liked Lennox Lewis until after he defeated all the best heavyweights the US had to offer in that era and they had no legs to stand on. He was called glass jaw, gay etc., and that's for a guy spent over half of his career fighting in the US. The hate for Lennox Lewis was so bad that the politics kept him out of making big money in big fights against the 4 big American heavyweights of that era (Tyson, Foreman, Holyfield and Bowe). Lennox was treated like an outsider and even when Bowe refused to fight him - Americans supported Bowe (similar to how Americans stay supporting Wilder despite the fact that he is the one ducking AJ).

When AJ destroys Wilder in a one-sided fight where Wilder is going to get beaten from pillar to post, they won't have any other choice than to bow down to him. And it's going to happen before the end of next year.

I think you misunderstood my post. My point was that Lewis had to put up with a tremendous amount of biases from the American press. As far as people "choosing" to bow down...
Let me tell you a sad reality my friend: Without getting into any back and fourth about the Vitali fight... cause that is not my point, Lewis had trained for a really weak opponent and in one of the few times of his career came in to the ring out of shape. Lewis in his mind, persevered in that contest, and probably thought to himself, "well I have fought all commers (and I believe he did) and conducted myself winning the hearts and minds of the public."

Imagine his suprise when instead of maybe tactfully being asked about the stoppage, he was ambushed and aspersions cast upon his performance and the stoppage. It really hurt Lewis, I don't think I ever saw him so mad as that interview. It also caught him by suprise, thinking he had crossed that bridge before...

My point is seldom do people admit when they are wrong, they usually tend to dig in. And seldom do their attitudes change...Something Lewis learned in those post fight interviews.

[billeau2]

Lewis would have been hounded in a social media era and that's not even counting his losses. imagine the mentality of todays fans/ forum audience ? We see it now with Joshua but the difference is he has several title defenses against far tougher ranked guys straight away.

I know how much he was disliked ( Lewis ) I remember just in the gym at the time in the poconos back in those 90's days guys used to grill him and the division ,funny when he showed up everyone somehow had a different tune ? I cant imagine why ? lol

Its like when a Samoan says "I wouldn't do that you might upset my little brother tiny." And as you get ready to laugh and point you notice "Tiny" who is anything but "Tiny."

I won bet after bet on Lewis...Everyone thought Golota would Ko him, heck there were many who thought Rahman would win the rematch! People were blind. I even remember Merchant saying that he wanted to see Lewis against a decent American heavyweight before the second Rahman fight...

[BangEM]

I think you misunderstood my post. My point was that Lewis had to put up with a tremendous amount of biases from the American press. As far as people "choosing" to bow down...
Let me tell you a sad reality my friend: Without getting into any back and fourth about the Vitali fight... cause that is not my point, Lewis had trained for a really weak opponent and in one of the few times of his career came in to the ring out of shape. Lewis in his mind, persevered in that contest, and probably thought to himself, "well I have fought all commers (and I believe he did) and conducted myself winning the hearts and minds of the public."

Imagine his suprise when instead of maybe tactfully being asked about the stoppage, he was ambushed and aspersions cast upon his performance and the stoppage. It really hurt Lewis, I don't think I ever saw him so mad as that interview. It also caught him by suprise, thinking he had crossed that bridge before...

My point is seldom do people admit when they are wrong, they usually tend to dig in. And seldom do their attitudes change...Something Lewis learned in those post fight interviews.

Even with everything Lennox Lewis faced, I don't think he faced half of what AJ is currently going through with Americans. Even MMA idiots who don't know anything about boxing like Rogan and Schuab are always slagging him off. And you've a r3tard like Charlamagne who bleaches his skin and his little ***ish handbag that slag him off at every opportunity.

It's just the American way and the innate hate Americans generally have any successful global star who isn't American.

[BangEM]

Ok glad that you recognize that fact...

Hearn is a cowboy and an opportunist with a big mouth. He's also not very intelligent and that will end up being his downfall on the long run.

Once AJ leaves him and all the boxers he's signing now who think his genius is what made AJ realise that he can't build a boxer and Matchroom is the worst at match making, they're all going to end up leaving him. He's going to get one of his boxers killed very soon.

[billeau2]

Even with everything Lennox Lewis faced, I don't think he faced half of what AJ is currently going through with Americans. Even MMA idiots who don't know anything about boxing like Rogan and Schuab are always slagging him off. And you've a r3tard like Charlamagne who bleaches his skin and his little ***ish handbag that slag him off at every opportunity.

It's just the American way and the innate hate Americans generally have any successful global star who isn't American.

Time will tell.

[LacedUp]

Here's a full comprehensive list:

1) Jealousy

.... that's it