Why do internet Americans hate Anthony Joshua so much?

[BangEM]

You keep calling AR names after he epically beat the breaks out of AJ. Plodder or not he's faster than AJ and has a better chin. More importantly than skills he has a win over AJ and the belts.

Dont talk to you WIN!! All that side loser troll talk is why your fighters will keep losing. LOL!! You chumps are still happy about a draw where your fighter damn near got killed. LOL!! Such low standards.

Ive NEVER said on word about Ajagba. I think he's slow and lacks instincts. Its you Brits who like to wank off to these dudes with fitness model bodies (AJ), in the USA skills and victories pay the bills. Franklin/Ruiz are all fat bums until you a Brit in front of them. LOL!!

I give you credit ****Em. You have a lot more spirit spirit than most. You remind me of that little white fan Wilder slapped around the gym because he was internet trolling. There arent enough British bum boxers to disappoint you and make you lose your national pride. 0-30-1 and proud. UK fμck yeaaasaah!!!!!!!

Ruiz is a slow plodder who doesn't move his feet with fast hands. He was lucky AJ got carried away after the knock down and decided to trade with him. AJ did catch him with a big right when they traded and also got caught with a left hook on the chin. I'm guessing he felt Ruiz's power and thought it won't bother him, then decided to continue trading until the perfect temple shot changed the fight. Take that out, AJ would've beaten Ruiz from pillar to post, if he had been disciplined. And that's an AJ who wasn't even fit to begin with. Imagine if he were fully fit.

It's heavyweight boxing and one punch can change a fight. Ruiz got lucky and that single punch to the temple changed the whole fight. Ruiz doesn't move his feet and any boxer with decent footwork and power would be able to punish him all night on the outside. And I don't even think Ruiz has a good tank because he was almost gassed himself from the 4th rd, hence the fight lasted 3 more rds.

Franklin is a fat bum and Dubois will get him out of there in 3 rds max. Franklin is still fighting tomato cans, yet his last 3 fights have been dubious decisions, lol. What will happen when he steps up from tomato cans to Uber drivers? He's going to get KTFO!

[BangEM]

I think Fury has some major advantages. He has been trained since young...Like James Toney when he is in a boxing ring he looks like he is at home. Also if you actually look at Fury's KO percentage, it is not bad. He is a very accurate puncher. I don't see him being beat right now.

Joshua has power and his punching is improving to the point where his combinations are a real threat to any other fighter. He also appears to be conditioning himself better for the ring.

Whyte is chronically underestimated. He has a great tendency to throw shots from weird angles and has excellent power.

Regarding Wilder: he is the strongest puncher as it stands right now...that could change with Joshua who also has the potential for a lot of power. With punchers it is a numbers game pure and simple: Joe Louis perfected the formula and had 15 rounds on the championship fights to perfect it. A puncher needs to know they will get a certain amount of shots to be successful.

You should observe Fury carefully if you think fighting off the back leg is not a preferred strategy for him. It gives him more time to react to the punches, set traps and use his reach.

Fury does have an advantage when it comes to muscle memory and being in the sport far longer. However, that doesn't negate the fact that you need power in the heavyweight division to thrive.

Style makes fight and Fury does have problems with fighter who can brawl and also box with decent fundamentals. And he's also susceptible to hooks when he's fighting on the front foot. Fury won't have that much success going 12 rds on the back foot against AJ because AJ is athletic. Unlike Wilder who likes to swing windmill - AJ has a repertoire of high percentage shot selection and he's very accurate since he's an Olympian. Also unlike Wlad who was so used to his jab jab grab technique and thought he would easily beat Fury with that but only for Fury to out jab him. AJ's going to be more aggressive and Fury would've to come forward and fight. AJ is also at his best when he's fighting guys his size or taller.


After watching how disciplined Dillian Whyte was in his last fight and how he was able to fight behind is jab for 12 rds and mix it up when he needed to - I'm more convinced now that he'll beat both Fury and Wilder. Dillian is underrated as a boxer. I'm also guilty of that. And both AJ and Dillian destroyed Fury in sparring.

Wilder is a one-trick pony and he's also very predictable. The Breazeale sham that everyone's gassed about didn't change my opinion of AJ. The fight was a WWE sham than anything. Also, with Wilder, once he sets his feet and paws with his left - you know he's going to telegraph his right. And when he misses, he's going to keep swinging. That's Wilder in a nutshell.

Now let me use two fights to tell you why both Dillian and AJ beat Wilder easily.

1). Dillian Whyte vs Rivas: when you watch that fight again, you'd see that Rivas' money shot is his overhand right. He also doesn't telegraph it like Wilder does but it's very predictable. But Dillian Whyte was able to avoid it for 12 rds. And that's the same way he's going to avoid Wilder's one-trick for 12 rds. But once he catches Wilder with that left hook which Wilder is very susceptible to and gets caught with in every fight - it's night, night.

2). Wladmir Klitschko vs AJ: Wlad's money shot is his hook shot albeit he has that powerful hammer right. And he throws his hooks from angles. However, in his fight with AJ - AJ was able to avoid it all night but was getting caught with Wlad's hammer right. The game plan was to avoid the hooks and he excelled with that. The game plan against Wilder would be to avoid Wilder's right and keep the fight at short/mid-range. AJ is by far the best boxer on the inside amongst the giant heavyweights out there - he might be the fastest when it comes to 1-2 combos (AJ is a 1-2 boxer, unlike Ruiz who's very fast with flurries). I'm sure you saw the lightening speed with the uppercut and left hook combo that dropped Ruiz in the 3rd rd. So he needs to do is keep the fight short with Wilder and he'll knock Wilder out cold.

[saintpat]

Fury does have an advantage when it comes to muscle memory and being in the sport far longer. However, that doesn't negate the fact that you need power in the heavyweight division to thrive.

Style makes fight and Fury does have problems with fighter who can brawl and also box with decent fundamentals. And he's also susceptible to hooks when he's fighting on the front foot. Fury won't have that much success going 12 rds on the back foot against AJ because AJ is athletic. Unlike Wilder who likes to swing windmill - AJ has a repertoire of high percentage shot selection and he's very accurate since he's an Olympian. Also unlike Wlad who was so used to his jab jab grab technique and thought he would easily beat Fury with that but only for Fury to out jab him. AJ's going to be more aggressive and Fury would've to come forward and fight. AJ is also at his best when he's fighting guys his size or taller.


After watching how disciplined Dillian Whyte was in his last fight and how he was able to fight behind is jab for 12 rds and mix it up when he needed to - I'm more convinced now that he'll beat both Fury and Wilder. Dillian is underrated as a boxer. I'm also guilty of that. And both AJ and Dillian destroyed Fury in sparring.

Wilder is a one-trick pony and he's also very predictable. The Breazeale sham that everyone's gassed about didn't change my opinion of AJ. The fight was a WWE sham than anything. Also, with Wilder, once he sets his feet and paws with his left - you know he's going to telegraph his right. And when he misses, he's going to keep swinging. That's Wilder in a nutshell.

Now let me use two fights to tell you why both Dillian and AJ beat Wilder easily.

1). Dillian Whyte vs Rivas: when you watch that fight again, you'd see that Rivas' money shot is his overhand right. He also doesn't telegraph it like Wilder does but it's very predictable. But Dillian Whyte was able to avoid it for 12 rds. And that's the same way he's going to avoid Wilder's one-trick for 12 rds. But once he catches Wilder with that left hook which Wilder is very susceptible to and gets caught with in every fight - it's night, night.

2). Wladmir Klitschko vs AJ: Wlad's money shot is his hook shot albeit he has that powerful hammer right. And he throws his hooks from angles. However, in his fight with AJ - AJ was able to avoid it all night but was getting caught with Wlad's hammer right. The game plan was to avoid the hooks and he excelled with that. The game plan against Wilder would be to avoid Wilder's right and keep the fight at short/mid-range. AJ is by far the best boxer on the inside amongst the giant heavyweights out there - he might be the fastest when it comes to 1-2 combos (AJ is a 1-2 boxer, unlike Ruiz who's very fast with flurries). I'm sure you saw the lightening speed with the uppercut and left hook combo that dropped Ruiz in the 3rd rd. So he needs to do is keep the fight short with Wilder and he'll knock Wilder out cold.

Two-time drug cheat using dodgy, uninspected gloves sc****s by unknown and untested guy doesn’t tell us much other than that USAK and BBBoC are in Eddie’s back pocket.

[juggernaut666]

You have some great recollections... spot on. Lets talk Parker first: He has to settle down on his punches more. Its killing him. I mean hes not a pressure fighter, hes a boxer puncher and he has good punches when he does not get cute and flick stuff out. Hes got to work that out to go forward otherwise he will not be a threat enough to keep the bigger guys off.

Yeah unfortunately we may well get a Lewis Bowe Mexican stand off which is caused by other forces for sure. Whyte is still on my list. I think he will be cleared as well. I would like to see him fight at a lighter weight but he is scrappy and his skills are in tact, and still evolving. He has that great way of throwing from different angles, and he has some pop. He could be a "sleeper." He matches up well with most of the other guys. That was a great fight between him and Joshua.

The bolded: Those are the guys that it is nice to see get noticed. You have always been great about bringing up some of the guys who are not front running, yet... but coming on up. And yes in the past we have looked at some of the present front runners before they had achieved, you particularly have spotted some guys that I only started to follow after you mentioned them. Like Dominic Brazil.




yeah the herd has to be culled lol. I just wish we could have something like that super middle weight tourney. That was such a great event. And I think Ward was not even picked to win that event.

The real work of fans is looking at the new crop and seeing who might do great things. You have always been on point in this regard. We also both appreciated Razor Rudock who really got a bum rap. Maybe more members here would understand why it is so frustrating dealing with some of the attitudes here if they started to look carefully at fighters like Joshua and Ruiz, when they started.

Parker looked his best last fight some guys just get up for a fight and they wont get knocked down so easily if at all, could have to do with not throwing punches back but ? lol Its a domestic NZ fighter rival in ways in Leapai but those are the type of fights he needs ,ppl just don't get it.

Whyte should be about 245 but ? I always rescore fights at times counting every punch and then rescore it again with opposing fighter and then again a 3rd time and im usually 95 % coincide with the scoring.( only include jabs if power ones land or its really a deciding factor ) and find he does better then I thought and his fights just look closer watching them live.

This is probably the wrong forum for interested fans in looking new guys they go with good looking or top guys and jump ship,DDD became a bum before Gorman fight going 10 rounds with Johnson, Parkers a bum he struggled in some, AJ is a bum, Joe Joyce is a bum he went 10 rnds in his 10th fight ,Furys a bum bc hes fighting an actual tough Wallin, etc...etc...lol


These are some under the radar guys to watch for . Vlad Sirenko, Sonny Conto , and Oleksandr Zakhozhyi .

[BangEM]

Parker looked his best last fight some guys just get up for a fight and they wont get knocked down so easily if at all, could have to do with not throwing punches back but ? lol Its a domestic NZ fighter rival in ways in Leapai but those are the type of fights he needs ,ppl just don't get it.

Whyte should be about 245 but ? I always rescore fights at times counting every punch and then rescore it again with opposing fighter and then again a 3rd time and im usually 95 % coincide with the scoring.( only include jabs if power ones land or its really a deciding factor ) and find he does better then I thought and his fights just look closer watching them live.

This is probably the wrong forum for interested fans in looking new guys they go with good looking or top guys and jump ship,DDD became a bum before Gorman fight going 10 rounds with Johnson, Parkers a bum he struggled in some, AJ is a bum, Joe Joyce is a bum he went 10 rnds in his 10th fight ,Furys a bum bc hes fighting an actual tough Wallin, etc...etc...lol


These are some under the radar guys to watch for . Vlad Sirenko, Sonny Conto , and Oleksandr Zakhozhyi .

Most of the posters on this forum are idiots and when they're not PBC bots, they're just bandwagoners. Just tell them to breakdown a fight or a fighter and they'd have a seizure.

[Tyistall]

All you have are a bunch of excuses. Excuses excuses, and more excuses ever since Joshua lost. You and **** are "if" guys. If he won. No mofo he LOST! Joshua is no different than any other fighter who loses. If he wins the rematch he will earn respect. There are those who might still hate him, but why worry about what they think?

Joshua made his bed by blatantly ducking Wilder and your promoter belittling Wilder when they negotiated for their fight. Ortiz wanted to fight Joshua and got burned too. That's why the other guys that you mentioned may not like the fake ass Prima Donna. Fury called the man on his cowardice and fought Wilder. They feel like he's been handed everything and that he can just snap his fingers and **** happens.

Then he runs into a guy who he was supposed to beat and looks like a ****en amateur. You better hope and pray that he wins the rematch. Pray mother****er...!!!

And you are another Wilder b!tch hahaha. You ****** asses are still holding on to the fake 50 million dollar "offer" and ignoring the fact that Hearn offered Wilder 120 million for 4 fights or 100 million for 3. Which that idiot turned down to fight for 1-2 million tops hahahaha. THAT's cowardice you idiot. And Fury? Really? Fury won't fight another guy in the top 50 for two more years hahah. How could anybody quote that chump right now? AJ lost, it happens. But now Ruiz is acting like a diva, Fury is fighting bums and Wilder is fighting a retread tire on heart medication so are we really in a better place right now? If your girlfriend Wilder had any balls, he could have fought AJ and we would at least have one champion now.

[Blond Beast]

Ruiz is a slow plodder who doesn't move his feet with fast hands. He was lucky AJ got carried away after the knock down and decided to trade with him. AJ did catch him with a big right when they traded and also got caught with a left hook on the chin. I'm guessing he felt Ruiz's power and thought it won't bother him, then decided to continue trading until the perfect temple shot changed the fight. Take that out, AJ would've beaten Ruiz from pillar to post, if he had been disciplined. And that's an AJ who wasn't even fit to begin with. Imagine if he were fully fit.

It's heavyweight boxing and one punch can change a fight. Ruiz got lucky and that single punch to the temple changed the whole fight. Ruiz doesn't move his feet and any boxer with decent footwork and power would be able to punish him all night on the outside. And I don't even think Ruiz has a good tank because he was almost gassed himself from the 4th rd, hence the fight lasted 3 more rds.

Franklin is a fat bum and Dubois will get him out of there in 3 rds max. Franklin is still fighting tomato cans, yet his last 3 fights have been dubious decisions, lol. What will happen when he steps up from tomato cans to Uber drivers? He's going to get KTFO!

Right. It must have took sum real effort on AJs part to screw it all up. Good for him.

[Raggamuffin]

And you are another Wilder b!tch hahaha. You ****** asses are still holding on to the fake 50 million dollar "offer" and ignoring the fact that Hearn offered Wilder 120 million for 4 fights or 100 million for 3. Which that idiot turned down to fight for 1-2 million tops hahahaha. THAT's cowardice you idiot. And Fury? Really? Fury won't fight another guy in the top 50 for two more years hahah. How could anybody quote that chump right now? AJ lost, it happens. But now Ruiz is acting like a diva, Fury is fighting bums and Wilder is fighting a retread tire on heart medication so are we really in a better place right now? If your girlfriend Wilder had any balls, he could have fought AJ and we would at least have one champion now.

That stiff ass coward lost because he can't fight and after Ruiz ends his career...we won't have to see **** blowing posts from you Robbie and **** anymore. The world is tired of him. Joshua is a ****en bum, and bums don't survive in boxing long...

[SuperSuperLeeds]

someone is in their feelings lmaoooo. AJ is Nigerian has no European blood. That’s the only fighter you UK fans talk about. What happened to all the other fighters? Whyte Fury Saunders Hughie Povetkin. Oh that’s right they are all cheaters. You only have 4-5 UK world champions lol enjoy them and stop crying

Silly comment. What American blood does wilder or Hopkins or mayweather have they're BLACK. BLACK people didn't originate I'm the Americas. Original African bloodline

[SuperSuperLeeds]

Dude, Eddie Hearn went out of his way to present colorline era bull**** to Deontay Wilder. I don't know how to be more clear then that. The moneyline is the precursor to the colorline.

**** son, actually, If you want to know why AJ's a ***** and Hearn deserves smacked around read our posts from back when they were actually talking about America not talking about avoiding Ruiz in America.

I honestly don't give a **** about most the Ruiz talk. I'm sure AJ will come back strong, I'm sure the venue is really unimportant in the end. And I am sure if being in Saudi ****in Arabia makes that big a difference ain't neither one of them that much better than the other, a ****in' stubbed toe and ham sandwich could be just as big an advantage.

That said, there's a reason why pretty much every US black talking head called Hearn racist and looked down on Joshua for sticking by him. He did go out of his way to touch on historical racism done in the exact same manner that caused the colorline in the first place.

Your interpretation was to immediately scream racism. Just like when Connor McGregor called mayweather boy and people thought it was racist. You don't know how ignorant you are, looking at everything through racist tinted glasses because you're American and your country is race obsessed. Do you think a smart businessman like Hearn would try to provoke any racial sentiment at all??
Get it in your ****** head that were not obsessed with racism in the UK like you guys are. Do you think African AJ with a huge black fan base would stick by Hearn if he was expressing veiled racism? You guys are ****ing deluded. Only black American/American fans would bring race into the equation. The ldbc are as delusional as ***. You've been manipulated by too much black history month bs thinking black people are just victims in society from white oppressors. Only you guys would see a black British fighter vs a black American fight as a racial issue. Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.