Comments Thread For: Adan Gonzales Drops, Decisions Robeisy Ramirez in Huge Shocker

[Corelone]

Jfc. Didn't see that coming.

Ramirez just gonna sneak back into Cuba & pretend this sh^t ain't happen. Think I might be cosidering that if I was Ramirez.

These guys talking about him coming back. He just got here. He isn't coming back. Good advice.

[Eff Pandas]

They don't want him in Cuba now, Osvel Caballero is the real deal, he outclassed Duke Ragan from the U.S. in the PanAms a week ago, and Duke Ragan is a great fighter.

After last night Im just saying I'd rather be Ramirez in Cuba than Ramirez in the US.

[deanrw]

Jfc. Didn't see that coming.

Ramirez just gonna sneak back into Cuba & pretend this sh^t ain't happen. Think I might be cosidering that if I was Ramirez.

Wouldn't it be funny if we found out in the next couple weeks that it was not Robeisy fighting last night, but his identical twin brother Abner Ramirez instead? LOL

[BoloShot]

Cubans just don't transition well in the pros in U.S. Robeisy was undisciplined and showed up many times out of shape while in Cuba where discipline is at its highest. I can only imagine what he does in U.S or Mexico, wherever he resides now. And although Robeisy is still young, what is he? 23 or 24 years old? He's got a lot of mileage and when you listen to him speak he sounds almost punch drunk. I know he used to drink a lot in Cuba. So just to resume this, he's an exceptional talent with exceptional skills, but his dedications, conditioning and discipline was a problem in Cuba but b/c the training staff there doesn't accept non-conformity he had to be in tip top shape for the most part. You can have all the skills and talent in the world, however, if you don't have conditioning it doesn't matter. There is a video of young Floyd Mayweather quitting against Paul Spadafora after 5 rounds cause he wasn't in shape.

Spadafora was quite good too in fairness, massively pumped up record but a very talented guy nonetheless. Not surprised Mayweather suffered against him if he wasn't in shape.

[BoloShot]

With the outcome of this fight Ramirez can only hope & dream that he can become a sequel to Zou. Losing your pro debut as a decorated amateur is a bad bad look.

Yeah Zou did alright in the pros at least but this kid was just trash. His style is awful too.

[CubanGuyNYC]

When he dropped I was like "****ing KIDDING ME?!?" I've been saying for years you can't judge an Amateur until his chin gets tested in his first pro fight (pros punch to hurt, wear smaller gloves, etc.) and the one time I go against my own rule and rate this kid highly, and he's dropped on the first damn punch!!

I get you, man. One gets taken in by appearances sometimes. We go against our better judgement. Don’t know if this kid will turn it around, but this obviously isn’t a good start.

[CubanGuyNYC]

He looked completely uninterested. He did not appear prepped for the pro game at all. He has talent, but he has a lot of work to do. I was shocked by his lack of basics. No Jab, Swinging Wildly, Pulling Straight back etc.


He looked like just any other fighter fighting in his pro debut. No special effects.

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Ramirez slacked in training. Sadly, a lot of these Cuban defectors have shown a tendency towards laziness.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I frankly don't get why people are so stunned. Plenty of quality fighters lose their debut fight, it happens. Rungvisai lost his - look at him now.

Guy'll be alright

Yes, it happens on occasion. That has been established. But it’s far from the norm. And when it happens it’s a shock. I’m not saying Ramirez’s career is over, but it doesn’t look nearly as promising now.

[Caxcan]

Ramirez looked like a train wreck in there-- not just because of his bad habits but there was also an unfocused and twitchy energy about him. Dude looked like he was tweaking.

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