Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Mayweather, Ward-Kovalev, Inoue, More

[Shadoww702]

Shadow I think your issue with people that's quote combox is they don't agree with how you saw a fight unfolding. In order to make their point because it's hard to convince someone that they are wrong they go to compubox to reinforce what they are saying.. For example in the first Golovkin Canelo fight to me it was obvious that Golovkin landed more punches in most rounds.. If I get into a discussion and someone refuted that I use Compubox to reinforce what to me was perfectly obvious. The so called rules of scoring a fight are highly subjective and open to interpretation. Very few people goes to compubox to decide who won a fight. Most people already have an opinion on who won after the fight and in some case just enjoyed the fight and don't care who won. Canelo spent too many minutes of a lot of rounds backing up and not throwing punches.. Where those minutes effective agression.. Where those minutes spent landing clean hard punches.. No. He spent too many minutes of too many rounds on the back foot giving those minutes to Golovkin. He lost that fight.. You even scored it for him 7-5. Now if you ask someone else those minutes were spent showing brilliant defense. There are even people on this website that claim a jab is not a punch or it can't possibly be effective because after all just a jab.. Totally ignoring that a jab is a scoring punch and it can be effective if it does the job that is intended to do.. For example keeping the other guy from mounting an intelligent attack by disrupting his rythum. Steering him to where you want him to go. Using it to set up other punches. Keeping the opponent off if you.. Power punches are any punch that isn't a jab by definition,

Tell me your score by fight and then I'll respond. I already know your original scores

[TonyGe]

Tell me your score by fight and then I'll respond. I already know your original scores

I had it 8 to 4 first fight.

[aboutfkntime]

See there you go.. I say he clearly won both fights..

but you have proven on multiple occasions that you do not know how to score a fight

[BSking215]

Yeah man, this is assuming you know how to score a round. Id have to work on writing up something like that. This little method i use i been using for a good fifteen years. I forget which “robbery” i saw that made me make this but i may work on an actual scoring methodology next. Thanks.

[BSking215]

Hey man, so I actually came up with a rough draft (warning i wrote this up in about 20 minutes and got very lazy at the end lol). Could totally use some help. Im admittedly nobody but a fan so it isnt like it will be published or anything but i think its interesting with boxing being subjective to make more or less definitive rules for judging and scoring. Heres what i have so far. Please feel free to correct or tell me what i need to add or remove. I added some examples of things im considering removing for the sake of not upsetting certain stans lol...


ring generalship
Offense is the ability to come forward and trap an opponent on the ropes or in the corner. You dictate when, where and for how long.
Defense is the ability ability to avoid being trapped on the ropes and corners. Spinning an opponent, rope a dope tactics are a decent example.
Overall its about your footwork and setting up punches.

defense
Counter punching is the biggest attention grabber on the defensive end
Catch an shoot is a counter method that grabs eyes, but you allow your opponent to get off and hit you whether you block fully or not, to return fire.
Footwork/ head movement are good scoring “moves” from a defensive aspect, countering off of a slip where the punch misses entirely is the prettiest.
Rolling is beautiful for those with instant replay, not always so great for judges. The punch “lands” but you turn your face or shoulders the direction the punch is taking you to take the steam off some or entirely.
Blocking is the worst defensive maneuver there is in terms of scoring and is probably the least or lowest scored tactic.
Overall Examples of “robberies” manny vs bradley and canelo vs 3G. When you have one fighter just catching shots, or “blocking” and the other applying virtually every defensive tactic, every single round, that guy doing it all is probably winning at least the defensive category on the judges cards.

effective aggression
Coming forward and rendering the opponent ineffective.trapping them on the ropes, landing clean hard punches in bunches or keeping an opponent out with the jab.
Example, manny doesnt have an effective jab in the sense he only lands about 20-30 percent and he throws a lot but it is effective in the sense that his opponent usually isnt throwing with him.

clean hard punching
Not partially blocked, not slightly “rolled”. Clean punches. Hard punching is just a qualifier. If two fighters land the same number of punches then you have to look at the types of punches landed.
Do not subscribe to the boogie man stories. Unless you visibly see a fighter is hurt then score a hook as a hook.