Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Mayweather, Ward-Kovalev, Inoue, More

[aboutfkntime]

The judge has to weigh the two based on his experience.

I judge punches by observing the head after impact and the fighter's reaction. What might look like a pitty pat punch, can have more effective damage than what might look like a devastating punch. The goal here is to hurt the opponent more than he hurts you. A jab or body shot may not look like that effective in the early rounds, but when thrown in high volume during the course of the fight, it can wear down the head or body later on in the fight and can been seen in the physical language of the opponent.

I make my final judgement of scored rounds after reviewing the replay which can be judged from a different aspect from when I scored it live.

the official judges are.....

* knowledgeable
* well-trained
* experienced
* ring-side
* not drinking a beer, while talking to their buddy/girlfriend

even the sole judge who awarded the first fight to Golovkin, awarded the rematch to Canelo

so, how do you explain the difference in the way the judges saw the Canelo/Golovkin rematch, compared to how you saw the fight?

what EXACTLY (with specifics)..... did they do wrong ?

[Boxingfanatic75]

To anyone looking to score rounds objectively. The way i score rounds is you have to WIN the round for me to give it to you. Meaning when im watching a fight. I say either this person “won”, or im “giving” it to this person. The rounds i “give”, because im not a pro- on tv- nor getting paid, i count as swing rounds. For instance the toughest fight i ever scored was canelo-lara. If im not mistaken i gave canelo 5 and lara 3, with 4 rounds going either way. So as tight of a fight as that was, i couldnt cry robbery. But obviously the card where canelo was granted every close round is su****ious overall no robbery. Same with canelo 3g 1. I had 5-5 I believe with 2 swing and the rematch at 4-3 with 5 swing (advantage nelo) tho i gave canelo 2 and 3g 1 so it was 6-4 2 swing but the rounds i “gave” were close... with my system there are many bad cards but very few robberies. I watch fights and pick my personal winner with my personal score but if the other guy wins on points within my range it cant be a robbery. The only time my brow gets raised is if the judge gives every single close round to the same guy... keeping in mind you cant win a round just by doing better than the last nor just to break the rhythm... just leaves a bad taste imo... also imo we are fans first so scoring fights take more than 1 watch. My first watch is pure enjoyment. Anything after that is the breakdown unless i know some controversy is coming lol.

Know what? I consider myself an excellent scorer and have been watching boxing and a hard core fan for 35 years. Never in my life have I seen scoring in this manner. However, you know what? That sir is a damn great system you have there and I think I’m going to steal it. I certainly like the close vs robbery take as well and scoring in your fashion should produce very few robberies.

You get a kudos and thanks for providing a new perspective.

[saopaulo]

Stephen "Breadman" Edwards = biased jackoff

[Truth Serum]

the official judges are.....

* knowledgeable
* well-trained
* experienced
* ring-side
* not drinking a beer, while talking to their buddy/girlfriend

even the sole judge who awarded the first fight to Golovkin, awarded the rematch to Canelo

so, how do you explain the difference in the way the judges saw the Canelo/Golovkin rematch, compared to how you saw the fight?

what EXACTLY (with specifics)..... did they do wrong ?

Easy question to answer.

Judges have a horrible, one sided angle of the fight with a ref that is consistently blocking their view, and as a fan, we have the luxury of different angles, close-up shots, and slow motion replays to confirm what the judges might not see or what they may have assumed.

[aboutfkntime]

Easy question to answer.

Judges have a horrible, one sided angle of the fight with a ref that is consistently blocking their view, and as a fan, we have the luxury of different angles, close-up shots, and slow motion replays to confirm what the judges might not see or what they may have assumed.

the judges are not seated together

they have a completely different viewpoint

so..... #excuses

no way does the possibility that one of the judges could either be obstructed, or partially obstructed, for a very short brief period of time... overshadow the fact that they are well-trained (casual-fans are not)... experienced (casual-fans are not)... positioned ring-side (casual-fans are not)... and not drinking a beer, while talking to their buddy/girlfriend (casual-fans are not)

judges > casual-fans..... by a long mile

some of the nonsense written by casual-fans since that fight has been disturbingly ignorant

and you did not really answer the question

what did they get wrong in that fight..... what EXACTLY (specifics) did you see, that they missed?

[Truth Serum]

the judges are not seated together

they have a completely different viewpoint

so..... #excuses

no way does the possibility that one of the judges could either be obstructed, or partially obstructed, for a very short brief period of time... overshadow the fact that they are well-trained (casual-fans are not)... experienced (casual-fans are not)... positioned ring-side (casual-fans are not)... and not drinking a beer, while talking to their buddy/girlfriend (casual-fans are not)

judges > casual-fans..... by a long mile

some of the nonsense written by casual-fans since that fight has been disturbingly ignorant

and you did not really answer the question

what did they get wrong in that fight..... what EXACTLY (specifics) did you see, that they missed?

This is why live judging is the most inaccurate way of scoring fights:

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[aboutfkntime]

This is why live judging is the most inaccurate way of scoring fights:

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my point was.....

FACT: the current judging system > ignorant casual-fans

MANY casual-fans recently proved that they have no idea whatsoever how to score a professional boxing match

oh... that was AFTER they gave their score, and insisted that they were right

no thanks

opinions are like ass-holes... everyone has one, and some of them STINK

[Truth Serum]

my point was.....

FACT: the current judging system > ignorant casual-fans

MANY casual-fans recently proved that they have no idea whatsoever how to score a professional boxing match

oh... that was AFTER they gave their score, and insisted that they were right

no thanks

opinions are like ass-holes... everyone has one, and some of them STINK

What if one judge had the best angle and scored it for the other guy and the judges with the bad angle scored it for your guy?

Experts, trainers, enthusiasts, and media have the advantage when it comes to judging fights. The system is flawed but it is what it is.

[aboutfkntime]

What if one judge had the best angle and scored it for the other guy and the judges with the bad angle scored it for your guy?

Experts, trainers, enthusiasts, and media have the advantage when it comes to judging fights. The system is flawed but it is what it is.

that is why there are three judges, and that is why they sit in different positions

why would a kid who is completely unaware of that... who has no training whatsoever... attempt to reinvent the wheel?

oh, right... he would do that because his guy LOST !!

[aboutfkntime]

What if one judge had the best angle and scored it for the other guy and the judges with the bad angle scored it for your guy?

Experts, trainers, enthusiasts, and media have the advantage when it comes to judging fights. The system is flawed but it is what it is.

that is utter rubbish

most of those clowns have no idea whatsoever how to apply the official scoring criteria

we still have experienced fans arguing that all landed punches are scored... we still have experienced fans refusing to acknowledge defence... and I am yet to see a dopey casual-fan explain ring generalship

there is a HUGE gulf between the average fan and a professional boxing judge... the gap between someone who is trained and someone who is not trained, is as large as an intelligent reasonable person would expect it to be... the fact that you unaware of that, is telling

you sound like a kid with a toyota, giving a racecar driver advice