Does PAC hold the record of retiring his opponents?

[pasawayako]

What exactly was dumb about it? Every time someone mentions Floyd you closeted ****sexuals bring up gay insults instead of talking Boxing.

lol. you're talking about floyd fans when talking about insults. if you've been on this forum for a month u will already know who's the expert of throwing insults...

[Curtis Harper]

While floyd make his opponent beg for more fights.

I don't think Freddy Boy cares anymore

[FredWreck]

JMM got that ko of the century though. Not Pac

Pac's prime would pretty much line up with Mays. That's why Pac put off giving into 100000% random blood testing for so long.

BTW, besides Lucas, who only stood around to make that one last pay day, who has he retired ?!?!?!

Oh yeah, he did ''retire'' JMM !!!!

Mayweather ducked PAC in his prime. It’s okay tho because
Jose Luis Castillo got the win of the century against Mayweather.

[Zaroku]

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[Curtis Harper]

Mayweather ducked PAC in his prime. It’s okay tho because
Jose Luis Castillo got the win of the century against Mayweather.

Welcome back

As I pointed out to a Pac fan, Pac's prime and Mays prime would line up quite nicely.

Pac was too superstitious to give into 10000% random blood testing when they were BOTH in their primes

[john l]

U got 10-2 for floyd? that's the dumbest score even by a floyd lover could give to floyd. U have your opinion and i have mine.

Yea you have an opinion just not shared by anyone.

[john l]

09 wasn’t Floyd’s prime. You could argue it was his peak but that’s a losing argument. He came back out of nearly a two year retirement in 09 and fought once. Floyd’s prime was 130-140. Ended with the Hatton fight at 147. They were in two different divisions throughout their primes. Floyd’s initial return just out of his prime, he dominated a man manny could never clearly and outright beat. It was always clear who would win. A fight closer to their primes would’ve been even worse for manny.

Amen! But you used to much logic. A puncher will almost always age better because power is last to go and reflexes and speed 1st. I agree Floyd beats him easier in 2010, but Pac was afraid of needles the Tats he had must have been stickers.

[Marchegiano]

Yea its a sorta stat cuz who keeps track of how many guys this guy or that guy retired. Its not a stat anyone keeps up with.



Idk thats exactly the issue like I said. Okay Manny retired 5 or 6 guys or w/e, but how many guys did Oscar retire. How many guys did SRL retire. How many guys did Marciano retire. This was legit a thread & I'm pretty sure Rocky retired more guys than you got listed for Manny right now, but I didn't go digging up the thread so idk for sure.

But w/e the main point is no one is tracking how many people guys are retiring so who knows who gots the record for sure.

Looked up the Rocky retirement stat cuz I was legit curious & I came up with 15 if you count guys who didn't fight for a year+ after they fought Rocky or 13 if you only count guys who fought Rocky in their last fight.

1st Fight/Mar. 1947 Lee Epperson (Pro Debut) KO by 3

3rd Fight/July 1948 John Edwards (1-1) KO by 1
6th Fight/Aug. 1948 Jimmy Weeks (Pro Debut) KO by 1
7th Fight/Sept. 1948 Humprey Jackson (4-2) KO by 1

16th Fight/May 1949 Jimmy Evans (18-7) KO by 3
18th Fight/July 1949 Harry Haft (13-7) KO by 3
19th Fight/Aug. 1949 Pete Louthis (30-12-5) KO by 3
23rd Fight/Dec. 1949 Pat Richards (24-6-5) KO by 2 *had 1 more fight 3.5yrs later*
25th Fight/Dec. 1949 Carmine Vingo (16-1) KO by 6

27th Fight/June 1950 Eldridge Eatman (22-20-5) KO by 3
29th Fight/Sept. 1950 Johnny Shkor (30-18-2) KO by 6 *had 1 more fight 3.5yrs later*

38th Fight/Oct. 1951 Joe Louis (66-2) KO by 8

39th Fight/Feb. 1952 Lee Savold (100-37-3) KO by 7
40th Fight/Apr. 1952 Gino Buonvino (24-14-8) KO by 2 *fought in his 28th fight*

44th Fight/May 1953 Jersey Joe Walcott (51-17-2) KO by 1 *fought in his 43rd fight*

I'm gonna go ahead and smoke then get to the full.

It has been a long as **** time since I looked at Marciano, but, I did do the same thread at another forum that took it much more seriously. I'll post what came of that research when I find it, BUT, this blows Pac's argument way the **** apart.

Thanks again for the post.

[Marchegiano]

Retired immediately after fighting Marciano:

Lee Epperson

John Edwards

Jimmy Weeks

Humphrey Jackson

Jimmy Evans

Harry Haft

Pete Louthis

Carmine Vingo

Eldridge Eatman

Gino Buonvino

Joe Louis

Lee Savold

Jersey Joe Walcott

that's 13

The following would go on to have five fights or less after facing Marciano:

Tommy DiGiorgio

Bill Hardeman

Gilbert Cardone

Gilley Ferron

Artie Donato

Joe Dominic

Pat Richards

Phil Muscato

Johnny Shkor

Harold Mitchell

Willis Applegate

Bernie Reynolds

That's 12 who retired five fights or less after facing Marciano.



So, 13 inarguable direct to retirement wins. 12 speculative retirement wins. total of a possible 25 retirements wins, that's more than half the man's win, and more than half his KOs.


One thing is for sure, if you fought Marciano you probably didn't have much of a career afterward.


Pac's got what now?

[Marchegiano]

That ****'s thread worthy.