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  • moltres.
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    #81
    thurman was still in his prime around when floyd fought berto. thurman had years out and injured his strong arm and nearly got ko'd by a journeyman. thurman looked weak vs lopez, it wasnt the same fighter that beat garcia.

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      #82
      Originally posted by john l
      Also your right a one sided win over a future HOFer in Canelo is better then a win over a 100% Thurman and its not even close.
      Are you trying to say this more times than people are saying Pac beating thurman at 40 is better than anything on floyds resume. It's no life.
      Are you hoping if you say it often enough it will be in people's consciousness and essentially make it so?I
      Floyd will get credit for the version he beat, the green, cw version. Pac will get credit for beating the in his prime thurman, who had many wins over very good fighters, at 40, something never done.
      Be honest historically what is better?
      Last edited by hugh grant; 08-09-2019, 03:14 PM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by moltres.
        thurman was still in his prime around when floyd fought berto. thurman had years out and injured his strong arm and nearly got ko'd by a journeyman. thurman looked weak vs lopez, it wasnt the same fighter that beat garcia.
        i thought thurman vs danny was a close fight that could have gone either way??? why yall acting like the thurman that fought danny pitch a shut out or something? TBexcuses

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        • hugh grant
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          #84
          Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
          i thought thurman vs danny was a close fight that could have gone either way??? why yall acting like the thurman that fought danny pitch a shut out or something? TBexcuses
          I think they mean the thurman against lopez wasn't the one against garcia.
          But in fact thurman looked good against Pac which Floyd fans aren't accepting? People are saying that was the best Pac they'd seen for ages and the fact thurman did well, shows Floyd fans making too much out of thurman comeback against lopez.
          Thurman had some nice wins in his career surely he can have an off night against lopez without people writing him off, he deserved more respect than that he's earnt it in his career.

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          • hmc87
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            #85
            Originally posted by The tucker
            Thurman would be considered a bum overnight. Wins over porter,Garcia, Guerrero and the fact that he was a champion would mean nothing.

            Why is nobody saying that pacquiao waited for Thurman to look bad in his last fight with Lopez ?(pacquiao has a strong history of doing this) Or that Thurman hasn’t knocked anyone out in years so pacquiao didn’t get a prime Thurman.


            Floyd fights a younger fighter in canelo and they say he was too green and wasn’t ready when in reality they had damn near the same amount of professional fights when they fought lol. People forget Floyd was pressured into the fight with canelo because he was the new boogie man that was supposed to have floyd pissing the bed because manny was still fresh off the Marquez KO so they needed someone to be the guy floyd was ducking.

            But manny beats Thurman which is arguably his biggest win of this decade and he is now considered fighter of the decade and the greatest fighter of all time smh.

            Don’t get me wrong thurman is a good win for anybody including Floyd but when the future looks back on this time who would you rather have a W over Thurman or canelo?
            You are too sensitive. Most boxing fans know Floyd is better than Manny. And most boxing fans have known this for Y E A R S. Those sensible boxing fans dont waste their energy or time arguing with mentally handicapped Manny fans.

            Thurman is a good win at 40 years old and is an okay win at earlier points in a career.

            Welterweight has been a 2-3 horse race for YEARS. And NONE of those horses are named Thurman, Porter, or Garcia. They are Crawford, Spence, and ENNIS.

            Beat one of them and you can make a real case for an accomplishment. Manny beating Thurman was like Manny beating a worse Tim Bradley. A good win for sure, but nothing to write home about

            Floyd's win over Canelo trumps every accomplishment of Manny. Every single one

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            • hmc87
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              #86
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Are you trying to say this more times than people are saying Pac beating thurman at 40 is better than anything on floyds resume. It's no life.
              Are you hoping if you say it often enough it will be in people's consciousness and essentially make it so?I
              Floyd will get credit for the version he beat, the green, cw version. Pac will get credit for beating the in his prime thurman, who had many wins over very good fighters, at 40, something never done.
              Be honest historically what is better?
              Keith Thurman sure looked in his prime against Josesito Lopez...lmfao

              And even the "in his prime" Thurman went life and death with MMAPorter and Cherry Garcia. That's a pretty ordinary prime. And yet Manny didnt squeak by THAT Thurman, he beat the 2 years off, post-surgery, nearly KTFO by a journeyman Thurman

              Deal with it. Boy.

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              • hugh grant
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                #87
                Originally posted by hmc87

                Floyd's win over Canelo trumps every accomplishment of Manny. Every single one
                Say if often enough and someone might believe it eventually, even if you dont.
                Is that what your hoping for?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by hmc87
                  Keith Thurman sure looked in his prime against Josesito Lopez...lmfao

                  And even the "in his prime" Thurman went life and death with MMAPorter and Cherry Garcia. That's a pretty ordinary prime. And yet Manny didnt squeak by THAT Thurman, he beat the 2 years off, post-surgery, nearly KTFO by a journeyman Thurman

                  Deal with it. Boy.
                  Historically it takes far less greater fighters than thurman for 40 year old flyweight to have a chance of beating them.
                  So dismiss Pac s win as much as you want nobody is taking you serious

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                    #89
                    Without question. If those often talked about fights with Williams & Margarito had happened & he had beaten both those guys, but then never had fought SSM or JMM then those guys would be the people that Floyd would have lost to. Its a no win debate when all Floyd's L are in the fantasyland of haters who never wanna give Floyd as much credit as he should get from them. Hate him for his personality &/or persona if you must, but respect the skills.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      I think they mean the thurman against lopez wasn't the one against garcia.
                      But in fact thurman looked good against Pac which Floyd fans aren't accepting? People are saying that was the best Pac they'd seen for ages and the fact thurman did well, shows Floyd fans making too much out of thurman comeback against lopez.
                      Thurman had some nice wins in his career surely he can have an off night against lopez without people writing him off, he deserved more respect than that he's earnt it in his career.
                      that's what i am saying. the thurman that fought danny wasnt any better than the thurman that fought lopez.

                      because the thurman that fought danny barely edge out a win, same goes for the thurman that fought lopez. this is why i said it's not like the thurman that fought danny pitched a shut out or something because that fight was also close.

                      since they're trying to say that the thurman that fought danny was so much better. i dont believe that. thurman was the same in both the danny fight and the lopez fight. and thurman didnt do that good against manny because pac is not danny or lopez.

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