Let’s be honest if floyd beat thurman......

[IceTrayDaGang]

Without question. If those often talked about fights with Williams & Margarito had happened & he had beaten both those guys, but then never had fought SSM or JMM then those guys would be the people that Floyd would have lost to. Its a no win debate when all Floyd's L are in the fantasyland of haters who never wanna give Floyd as much credit as he should get from them. Hate him for his personality &/or persona if you must, but respect the skills.

that's why he should have just fought them all, like how his fans is trying to push for manny to fight spence and TC... and it doesnt help that his fans are also delusional in saying that floyd would have beat all those guys. so his fans is also doing the same thing that they're complaining about that the haters is doing to floyd. "assuming".

floyd didnt fight those guys, so just leave it at that. dont add more fuel to the fire by saying floyd would have beaten those guys because there is no way to know for sure just like how there is no way to know for sure that floyd would have lost to some of those guys. the fight never happen so just leave it at that.

[Eff Pandas]

that's why he should have just fought them all

My point is NO ONE can fight everyone. There is ALWAYS someone you didn't fight. And for Floyd that just means there would be some other guy people would be hyping today as Floyd's superior if Floyd had fought & beaten Williams instead of SSM.

For example I think RJJ woulda destroyed that Michaeliski or w/e his name was German guy, but he never fought him & some RJJ haters can bring that guy up like it means something. It don't. Virtually everyone with a brain thought RJJ woulda beat him.

Thats all this Floyd sh^t is really about. His haters being unreasonably critical of Floyd's accomplishments vs the average HOF caliber fighter's career.

[IceTrayDaGang]

My point is NO ONE can fight everyone. There is ALWAYS someone you didn't fight. And for Floyd that just means there would be some other guy people would be hyping today as Floyd's superior if Floyd had fought & beaten Williams instead of SSM.

For example I think RJJ woulda destroyed that Michaeliski or w/e his name was German guy, but he never fought him & some RJJ haters can bring that guy up like it means something. It don't. Virtually everyone with a brain thought RJJ woulda beat him.

Thats all this Floyd sh^t is really about. His haters being unreasonably critical of Floyd's accomplishments vs the average HOF caliber fighter's career.

i completely understand that but you're missing the point i am trying to make here. what does the floyd fans say when posters bring up guys like margarito, p. williams, etc.? they say floyd would have beaten those guys!! so they're doing the same thing that they're complaining about that the haters is doing to floyd! there is no way to know for sure so just leave it at that. you cant complain (not you) about what the haters is saying when you're doing the same by assuming that floyd would have beaten all those guys. there is a reason why he retired the first time.

[hmc87]

Say if often enough and someone might believe it eventually, even if you dont.
Is that what your hoping for?

Historically it takes far less greater fighters than thurman for 40 year old flyweight to have a chance of beating them.
So dismiss Pac s win as much as you want nobody is taking you serious

Lol you are a sick kid XD

[The tucker]

Yes I said that, but the whole truth is Mosley was a year and a half out of the ring by the time they fought. Quite sure Floyds cherrypicking that right time to fight was based on that.

Somebody just dug up a thread. I like that

But you wasn’t concerned about mosley being a year and half removed from the ring before he beat mosley. You said floyd had to fight him because he was ducking him. Floyd didn’t jump in mosley’s Ring saying we need to fight. This is what is called moving the finish line. Once they make it there you move the goal line because you don’t want to give them credit.

And this forum was full of people saying Floyd was scared of canelo but once he beats them they say Floyd cherry picked when you guys are the one who wanted to feed it to him.

[Eff Pandas]

i completely understand that but you're missing the point i am trying to make here. what does the floyd fans say when posters bring up guys like margarito, p. williams, etc.? they say floyd would have beaten those guys!! so they're doing the same thing that they're complaining about

I'm not doing that. I'm giving the example that IF Floyd did beat those guys then some other guys would be the new Paul & Antonio in being the guy(s) who woulda beat Floyd or finally proven to the haters that Floyd was a legit bad mfer. They are bsing. Thats MY point. My point isn't that Floyd beats everyone who ever boxed. My point is Floyd can't win vs the haters who'll always put his W just outside of reach.

And if Floyd had fought ALL the guys on the list then the new guy would be GGG at 160 or RJJ at 168 or some sh^t. Its a no win situation that Floyd haters are pretending is a winnable situation. And thats why they are Floyd haters.

[The tucker]

See Floyd fans don't like mentioning cw, and ignore people think nelo was no where near his prime, let's not say green, it upsets Floyd fans. Floyd fans like to say jmm win was great even with cheated scales and bloating. See they don't discuss shortcomings of floyds wins.
So if Floyd beat thurman, you really think they acknowledge thurmans? They'd mention thurman credentials.
Just like in job interview you mention your strengths rather than weaknesses

Any where in this thread did you see me bring up manny using a catch weight on delahoya. Floyd moved up and fought delahoya at his own weight(mayweather never fought at 154 before) and delahoya chose his gloves too.

Delahoya was way bigger than manny so I felt the catch weight was needed just like how canelo is way bigger than floyd so the catch weight was needed also.

And let’s say Floyd fought a GREEN canelo who was not in his “prime” what would be the right time for Floyd to fight him?.... now that canelo is in his”prime” when Floyd is 42 and inactive and weighed 150 against mcgregor. Canelo is talking about fighting kovalev a light heavy weight for god sakes.
And people are talking about floyd should rematch canelo now. Would it be fair for Floyd to ask for a catch weight now for the rematch or should floyd fight someone who out weighs him by several weight classes?

[SplitSecond]

Damn this thread is still going? If Floyd was the one to beat Thurman it would just be the shoe on the other foot.

I remember the days of Larry and Floyd co. Posting their list of Floyd’s top wins including the likes of baldomir, at least now it’s just notable wins like Guerrero and Ortiz. You best believe if Floyd beat Thurman it would be touted as one of Floyd’s best wins. It would at least make those lists more respectable.

[Curtis Harper]

Shouda woulda coulda nadda.

You Floyd fans has to live with imaginary wins in order to actually give more credit than he deserved is priceless.

I hate to wake you up but every fighter who is considered great wins fights they never fought. EVEN YOU.

But let's test that theory....

Mike Tyson beats no one or everyone in this HW era ?!?!?!?

Woulda, coulda, shoulda time ?!?!?

Or

Name a guy May wouldn't, couldn't (shouldn't ??) have beaten....

My bad. I forgot how much you Pac fans hate naming names !!!!

[Curtis Harper]

I was easily one of the biggest Mayweather fans. Even I’ll say he became very annoying the past few years.

I acknowledge his annoying ways but.....he's retired.

These Pac fans can't live knowing their hero will never beat the man people can't stop talking about.