Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: I Strongly Believe That I Knocked Tyson Fury Out

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  • IRONCHINHAGLER
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    #51
    Originally posted by Vlad_
    It was done for the exact reason that you stated. Wilder was indeed hurt. New York State had a $22 million settlement with Magomed Abdusalamov who ended up brain damaged. So of course they are extra cautious there.
    Had never seen it done prior to that fight where a knockdown had not occured.... Wilder was slightly staggered but never close to going down....Aj literally staggered back to his corner after going down 2x against Ruiz(in MSG) - no Dr check after break....???? Where was the "caution".....?? Its called favoritism for Haymon/Wilder.
    Last edited by IRONCHINHAGLER; 08-08-2019, 10:14 AM. Reason: Omission

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    • champion4ever
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      #52
      Originally posted by ceylon mooney
      nope. theres near unanimoty on credible boxing professionals.

      some wilder fans do think the count was slow. no doubt. among hardcore wilder fans and LDBC, there are a good few. there are a good few who think he won. but among credible voices? uh uh. no one thinks he won or fury got the long count. ur in bradley beat pacquiao territory but much much smaller.

      wilder may not be alone, but there aint many, relatively speaking, who agree. again, this is bradley beat pacquiao territory.
      You read what I said correctly but obviously you misunderstood what I meant. I didn't use the word many. I used that a lot of boxing experts felt the same way as Deontay Wilder does in believing that the count was long and had there been another referee other than Jack Reiss Tyson Fury may have very well lost the fight. Which also includes both Evander Holyfield and Floyd Mayweather, Sr.

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        #53
        Originally posted by ceylon mooney
        had there been a crooked or less competent referee, that fight might have been waved off. cant disagree there.
        While, you are entitled to your opinion but it is what it is.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Vlad_
          Doctor inspections, if deemed necessary, are done after the 1 minute break. That’s the NYSAC guideline. Wilder did not get any special treatment.
          He didn’t even get knocked down. There was no cut or other injury. He was just buzzed and in danger of being stopped, and had a minute gifted to him to recover. No special treatment? Well where was Ortiz’s extra recovery time after the end of the 5th?

          See, you’re talking out your ass.

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            #55
            Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
            Had never seen it done prior to that fight where a knockdown had not occured.... Wilder was slightly staggered but never close to going down....Aj literally staggered back to his corner after going down 2x against Ruiz(in MSG) - no Dr check after break....???? Where was the "caution".....?? Its called favoritism for Haymon/Wilder.
            Forget AJ and Ruiz, where was Ortiz’s Dr’s check in the same damn fight?

            After being put down heavy right at the end of the 5th round, and not being able to show any signs of in-ring recovery prior to the round ending, how come the doctor didn’t feel it necessary to check him over prior to the 6th?

            Exactly.

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              #56
              Originally posted by 1hourRun


              UK's very own John Rawling and Barry Jones of BT-SPORTS would of never gave Tyson a count of ten. Rawling and Jones join the list of expert commentators that would of ruled Gypsy-Bum Tyson Fury out.

              I know this disappoints you coming from your own people denium. Accept facts.
              That’s not what facts are, though. That’s someone’s opinion.

              The facts are, Tyson got back up and wasn’t ever knocked or counted out. As hard as you wish he was, it never happened, so it can’t be ‘facts’.

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                #57
                Originally posted by cameltoe
                Forget AJ and Ruiz, where was Ortiz’s Dr’s check in the same damn fight?

                After being put down heavy right at the end of the 5th round, and not being able to show any signs of in-ring recovery prior to the round ending, how come the doctor didn’t feel it necessary to check him over prior to the 6th?

                Exactly.
                Excellent point I just plain over-looked!! Blatant favoritism to the MAX!!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by 4truth
                  If he got a long count it was only by a fraction of a second. The count Fury was up by was the refs count, the only count that mattered that night, the count Fury was watching and listening to.

                  Wilder should be blaming himself for blowing the opportunity. He caught Fury with a well thrown right but followed it up with a hook that would have been an embarrassment to a good amateur.
                  Exactly.

                  For a kick off, how accurate do you expect a human being to be when counting to ten seconds in that environment? It’s bound to be slightly off one way or the other.

                  Secondly, the count wasn’t even long, and this has been timed and verified. Ignore the special Wilder fans who don’t start their count from zero but from 1 instead, giving Fury 9 seconds.

                  Thirdly, had the ref counted quicker how do you know Fury wouldn’t have got up? He was alert and listening to the referee, and waited a good second before he stood. He gave himself all the time he could.

                  Fourth, there’s no clock running. Fury can only respond to what the ref does and that’s all that matters.

                  It’s a ****** argument from start to finish.

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                    #59
                    "even my one-year-old can do his job — and that is to count to 10"
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                    No, he cannot. 1 y.o. don't do that, Deontay.

                    Even if Fury got count 11-12 instead (which is arguable), the way he got up and fought the rest of the round showed that referee was right in not stopping the fight.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by 1hourRun
                      Tyson Fury lost considerable brain cells that night against the 'Bronze-Bomber' Deontay Wilder. I'll never forget the roar coming out of Showtime commentator Mauro Ranallo and the silence of his hater co-host and colleague Paulie Malignaggi when Gypsy-Bum Tyson Fury's head bounced off the mat and his eye-balls rolled around like looney-tunes.
                      Everyone knows that Tyson should should of been protected from further harm and the fight should of been stopped right there and then. Tyson Fury owes his undefeated record to Jack Reiss, hater Paulie Malignaggi said so himself.
                      It's should HAVE, or SHOULD'VE, DA. Wow, you delusional wilderholics sure do have short memories. Maybe I can help you. Go back and watch the 7th/beginning of 8th when your lord-and-master fought Ortiz. Hello?!?!?!?

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