Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Derevyanchenko Formally Ordered By The IBF

[AKAcronym]

if we are counting Vanes as a notable win for Golovkin... hell yes !!

nobody said Mosley was notable

that moron said Vanes and co were MORE notable

Hardly anybody counts Vanes as a notable win. If the guy said so then so be it. But neither Vanes nor Mosley should be anything notable, although I do see Mosley added as a reason Canelo has such a strong resume, which I don't agree with.

[aboutfkntime]

Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth lol...Chris Tucker voice

the words that are coming out of your mouth are nonsense

silly casual fanboy nonsense

[Boxing_1013]

Are we really counting Mosley as a notable win for Canelo?

if we are counting Vanes as a notable win for Golovkin... hell yes !!

nobody said Mosley was notable

that moron said Vanes and co were MORE notable

It's kind of semantics...if one views Mosley as a better win than Vanes then fine...but going 12 with Mosley at 154 when 6 months later he was KOed by Mundine is not impressive.

KOing Vanes in 2 rounds...when he looked like the same guy in there who fought Lara 5 years prior...hard to tell in a way since it was so quick but point being that Vanes was always a good fighter...what got him beat vs GGG was not inactivity imo but size...in that way it is a less impressive win for GGG because it was expected.

But G got him out of there quickly...if G went 12 rounds with Cotto at 160 at the end of his career I would not label that a very good win...all semantics in a way but yeah if Nelo KOed Mosley in 6 and G KOed Vanes in 6 then imo it would be a better win for Nelo...didn't happen though..what you do in fights matters as well as the quality of opponent..especially when opponent level is close....my 2 cents.

[aboutfkntime]

It's kind of semantics...if one views Mosley as a better win than Vanes then fine...but going 12 with Mosley at 154 when 6 months later he was KOed by Mundine is not impressive.

KOing Vanes in 2 rounds...when he looked like the same guy in there who fought Lara 5 years prior...hard to tell in a way since it was so quick but point being that Vanes was always a good fighter...what got him beat vs GGG was not inactivity imo but size...in that way it is a less impressive win for GGG because it was expected.

But G got him out of there quickly...if G went 12 rounds with Cotto at 160 at the end of his career I would not label that a very good win...all semantics in a way but yeah if Nelo KOed Mosley in 6 and G KOed Vanes in 6 then imo it would be a better win for Nelo...didn't happen though..what you do in fights matters as well as the quality of opponent..especially when opponent level is close....my 2 cents.

you said this.....

" Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there "

you also named Vanes a "good "win for Golovkin... and you named Mosley just a "ok" win for Canelo

you opened your ****-warmer... and out poured that rubbish LMAO

[Boxing_1013]

you said this.....

" Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there "

you also named Vanes a "good "win for Golovkin... and you named Mosley just a "ok" win for Canelo

Nelo went 12 with Lara...12 with Jacobs...and 12 with Cotto...not really that impressive and according to who you ask they were all close fights...never watched the Cotto fight in full but I felt Canelo won the other 2 7-5.

GGG beat Jacobs 8-4 with a KD on my card...beat Murray 11-0 with a KO and multiple KDs...and beat Lemieux 8-0 with a KO and multiple KDs.

Jacobs is literally the same guy..I don't know if you knew that or not...but same guy...Murray is not a whole lot different than Lara...I love Lara but he pisses away rounds and makes it closer than it needs to be...talent wise Lara is an ATG imo but style wise it is not a much different fight vs him or Murray as far as taking rounds.

Cotto was like 50 and done and fighting above his natural weight...Lemieux was a prime 160 champion...to try and disparage the quality of those wins for G while hyping up Nelo's is honestly childish and you should be ashamed of yourself. You're 70 years old almost for God's sake.

But yeah pretty easy stuff to understand lol...already addressed my thoughts re Vanes/Mosley situation a few posts up

[aboutfkntime]

Nelo went 12 with Lara...12 with Jacobs...and 12 with Cotto...not really that impressive and according to who you ask they were all close fights...never watched the Cotto fight in full but I felt Canelo won the other 2 7-5.

GGG beat Jacobs 8-4 with a KD on my card...beat Murray 11-0 with a KO and multiple KDs...and beat Lemieux 8-0 with a KO and multiple KDs.

Jacobs is literally the same guy..I don't know if you knew that or not...but same guy...Murray is not a whole lot different than Lara...I love Lara but he pisses away rounds and makes it closer than it needs to be...talent wise Lara is an ATG imo but style wise it is not a much different fight vs him or Murray as far as taking rounds.

Cotto was like 50 and done and fighting above his natural weight...Lemieux was a prime 160 champion...to try and disparage the quality of those wins for G while hyping up Nelo's is honestly childish and you should be ashamed of yourself. You're 70 years old almost for God's sake.

But yeah pretty easy stuff to understand lol...already addressed my thoughts re Vanes/Mosley situation a few posts up

you are a fkn moron

also...

Cotto was a world-class legend... Lemieux was, and is, a scrub

casual-fans... totally clueless about styles/levels/weight

also...

Cotto weighed 153

know why... ?

because he was a JMW you muppet

[Boxing_1013]

I can't read so I'm just going to post a bunch of nonsense that ignores your explanations...GGG is bad lol

Oh OK cool man

[aboutfkntime]

I'm just going to post a bunch of nonsense that ignores your explanations..

I read the following nonsense...


" Murray is not a whole lot different than Lara "

" Cotto was like 50 and done and fighting above his natural weight "


both of those statements are complete bollocks

you literally have no idea what you are talking about

1) Murray is nothing like Lara... not in level, nor in style

2) Cotto and Canelo were both junior middleweights

3) Cotto was 35, and on a very good run

go and stand outside with the other fools

[Boxing_1013]

2) Cotto and Canelo were both junior middleweights

3) Cotto was 35, and on a very good run

He beat a one legged shot inactive Martinez at 159 pounds..."Martinez was inactive for a year before the bout and had two separate surgeries performed on his right knee. Throughout the fight, journalists and fans alike, noticed Martinez was unable to bend, flex and support his own weight while moving in the ring"

So that's a great win for Cotto but G beating an inactive Vanes on short notice at MW is terrible...yawn

He beat a drained Geale at 157..."There was issues relating to weight for Geale, who already struggled to make the 160 pound limit previously. Cotto stated if he wanted the fight, he would need to accept a catch weight of 157 pounds."

Yawn...you don't keep it real at all man...oh well do you

[aboutfkntime]

Boxing1013..... WALL OF ******ITY

He beat a one legged shot inactive Martinez at 159 pounds..."Martinez was inactive for a year before the bout and had two separate surgeries performed on his right knee. Throughout the fight, journalists and fans alike, noticed Martinez was unable to bend, flex and support his own weight while moving in the ring"

So that's a great win for Cotto but G beating an inactive Vanes on short notice at MW is terrible...yawn

He beat a drained Geale at 157..."There was issues relating to weight for Geale, who already struggled to make the 160 pound limit previously. Cotto stated if he wanted the fight, he would need to accept a catch weight of 157 pounds."

Yawn...you don't keep it real at all man...oh well do you

did you just say... that I, do not keep it real..... ?




thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....

I just made a thread about specifically why people rate Canelo's resume as better than GGG's...and I laid out my case as to why I rate GGG's better.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=820918

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thinks that one of the " killers " on Golovkin's resume could have beaten Canelo.... but he will not say which one LMAO

I don't think Canelo would have gotten all of his guys out by KO and maybe would not have 'won' all of them.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=10

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thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....

Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there..... winning 7-5 vs a great Lara...and going 12 with a shot fat Cotto...is not imo better than 8 Round destruction of Lemieux...and 11 round destruction of Murray..... Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was..... I don't think going 12 with Mosley when Canelo did, or 12 with Trout, are better wins than GGG running through Monroe and Geale.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=16

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thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda

I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762

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thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins

Yeah he has about 10+ good wins imo...and 5-6 'great' wins if you want to term it that...great fighter, great career...an ATG at MW...that's pretty clear I think..... If a great win is a dominant win over another prime great fighter...I would say GGG has quite a few tbh.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...821123&page=20

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creates a thread misquoting Steve Weisfeld.....

Boxing1013 attempted to remove defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression, as official scoring criteria..... to justify why he thinks Golovkin beat Canelo in their rematch..... but, had NO IDEA that Steve Weisfeld was AN OFFICIAL JUDGE at the Canelo/Golovkin rematch..... and Weisfeld scored that fight for Canelo looool
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=818903

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thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....

never had a slip up against quality opposition, and he faced probably more of them than almost any other fighter in history...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=824905

btw, your latest doozy... that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history... is truly delicious