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Max Kellerman: Manny Pacquiao has a case for the best pound-for-pound fighter ever
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostMax is a fkn idiot
way to torpedo your own credibility
FACT: if Armstrong fought in a era that had 100+ world "titles", and 17 different divisions..... rather than a era with 8 world champions, and 8 divisions..... he would have truckloads of the rubbish that Max calls "achievements"
Max is being a fanboy fool..... which is a little disappointing
now, NONE of the (in)famous HBO 3..... have any remaining credibility
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Originally posted by puga View Postlet's see if you can back up that thing you call "FACT"
armstrong was a champion at 126-147...let's say we give him the ceferino garcia too at mw so 126-160...that's 7 divisions in today's standards, 1 division short compared to manny ..and if we go by official record, armstronng was still 3 divisions short (as a champion) compared to manny in today's standards...that's with pac skipping a couple weightclasses too btw
also, what do you think is the biggest weight difference between armstrong and his opponents?
so easy to throw garbage in and callin it "fact" but backing it up is the hard part huh lol
FACT: there is only one criteria for greatness
WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how
paper titles mean absolutely nothing, because.....
FACT: if Armstrong fought in a era that had 100+ world "titles", and 17 different divisions..... rather than a era with 8 world champions, and 8 divisions..... he would have truckloads of the rubbish that Max calls "achievements"
which is why Mayweather is CLEARLY greater than Pacquiao
Pac has anonymous paper " titles "..... Mayweather has names
" margarito "
" David Diaz "
" Chris Algieri "
" Thurman "
whoop-de-shlt
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Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Postaccomplishments speak for itself.
- first and only 8 weight world champion
- first and only 5 weight lineal champion
- the third fighter in history to win 3 lineal titles in 3 of the 8 original weight classes
- first and only 4 time welterweight champion in history
- oldest welterweight champion in history
- only second boxer in history to win world titles 20 years apart
- by next year pacquiao will be the first and only boxer to hold world titles in 4 different decade - 90s, 00s, 10s, and 20s
- 3x fighter of the year and fotd
again, not one of those " achievements " are a genuine criteria for greatness
none of that rubbish existed back when many of the greats were king
NAMES !!
who did you beat, with consideration given to when/how
nothing else matters
btw, being a 4-time welterweight champion means you lost at least 3x LMAO..... you are literally giving Pac credit for losing, which is the only thing that he actually did better than Mayweather
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..... you are LITERALLY giving Pac credit for losing, which is the only thing that he actually did better than Mayweather
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postagain, not one of those " achievements " are a genuine criteria for greatness
none of that rubbish existed back when many of the greats were king
NAMES !!
who did you beat, with consideration given to when/how
nothing else matters
btw, being a 4-time welterweight champion means you lost at least 3x LMAO..... you are literally giving Pac credit for losing, which is the only thing that he actually did better than Mayweather
Ali being the first heavyweight champion to win the title 3 times.
Floyd Patterson being the first heavyweight to regain the title .
Pac had huge KO wins as an underdog .
Floyd ?
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who did you beat, with consideration given to when/how ?
Mayweather has more better/high-level wins than Pacquiao
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Mayweather did not lose to MULTIPLE fighters, some by KO
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Mayweather beat Pacquiao
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NO, it has nothing to do with size..... Mayweather and Pacquiao were both established welters when they fought..... Pac could never solve the Marquez puzzle, losing every fight according to some observers..... but Mayweather schooled Marquez easily
Mayweather > Pacquiao..... not even close
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