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Max Kellerman: Manny Pacquiao has a case for the best pound-for-pound fighter ever

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  • #51
    Originally posted by ikigai View Post
    Marquez knocked a 8 division 5 time lineal champion in his prime spark out.

    Pacquiao has never beaten an 8 division 5 time lineal champion in his prime.

    Nobody will ever come close to achieving what Marquez did.
    Who takes risk like Pac? Hes not protected and been robbed by his own promoter. Look at the Bradley fights and the "loss" he took because of Bob and politics.

    The man that will fight anyone, anywhere, not just in Vegas with all kind of BS rules.

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    • #52
      [QUOTE=aboutfkntime;19956858]Pac beat a mid-level welter..... one who did not look like the same (largely-unproven) fighter since returning from injury/inactivity.../QUOTE]

      - -Marg prob the record setting welter with 12 consecutive Ring Ranked years, so the only thing unproven is you.

      Manny holds multi Ring P4P records whereas you soil yourself yet again.

      Better off if you just said you can't stand either and too ****** to know why...the truth!!!

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      • #53
        And in before aboutfkntime takes the charge in an effort to hate on Pacquiao after eating some salt for rooting for Thurman to KO pacquiao

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        • #54
          I agree with Max. Pacman definitely has a 'case' for best p4p ever. He has an impressive journey, take risks, has great rivalries, exciting fights, set the bar high with his achievements. He has also a share of controversies, losses and comebacks which are impactful. Impossible to replicate what he has achieved especially for an Asian non-American man.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how

            ..... oh, and there is also consideration given to losses



            NOTHING else matters.....

            not paper titles

            not espy's

            not twitter followers

            and not 97,000 fkn idiots
            I can feel that this guy is so pissed. lmao.

            Don't worry bro floyd will always be remembered as the highest paid boxer. lmao

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            • #56
              Originally posted by man down View Post
              Im blown away Max said this. He hates on Pac all the time.
              Yap. max kellerman is a floyd worshiper but greatness can not be denied even by the haters.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post

                FACT: if Armstrong fought in a era that had 100+ world "titles", and 17 different divisions..... rather than a era with 8 world champions, and 8 divisions..... he would have truckloads of the rubbish that Max calls "achievements"

                Max is being a fanboy fool..... which is a little disappointing

                now, NONE of the (in)famous HBO 3..... have any remaining credibility
                let's see if you can back up that thing you call "FACT"

                armstrong was a champion at 126-147...let's say we give him the ceferino garcia too at mw so 126-160...that's 7 divisions in today's standards, 1 division short compared to manny ..and if we go by official record, armstronng was still 3 divisions short (as a champion) compared to manny in today's standards...that's with pac skipping a couple weightclasses too btw

                also, what do you think is the biggest weight difference between armstrong and his opponents?

                so easy to throw garbage in and callin it "fact" but backing it up is the hard part huh lol

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                • #58
                  If AND THAT'S A BIG IF he were to fight and defeat Spence, easily Top 5 PFP all time.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    no, you forget about all that multi-division rubbish and start mentioning names

                    the ONLY thing that counts

                    one poster bought up a great point earlier.....

                    you can pile up all of that junk if you wish..... espy, twitter, ABC title junk..... that is fine..... but, Mayweather beat a guy with all that junk, and his name was Manny Pacquiao..... so, yea..... no matter how high you say Pacquiao is, Mayweather is higher..... not just because he beat Pacquiao, because he has more better/higher-level wins and no losses

                    FACT: if there was only one title today, like back in Armstrong's era..... nobody would be mentioning Pac's win over Thurman..... because Thurman would be just a mid-level guy coming off injury/inactivity, who looked terrible in his last fight
                    you have not really addressed what i stated....

                    and you did not understand, among other things, that i don't consider that floyd is up there over pac because he beat him...because it is like saying all other fighters who beat pac are greater than him...

                    and there is also the issue of who really beats who....or are you so far remote to know there is robbery in boxing?...floyd vs castillo 1..ring a bell? you have to see things as they are now...the past should be remembered..but no matter how glorious these past may be, you have to live by the standards of today..

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                    • #60
                      accomplishments speak for itself.

                      - first and only 8 weight world champion
                      - first and only 5 weight lineal champion
                      - the third fighter in history to win 3 lineal titles in 3 of the 8 original weight classes
                      - first and only 4 time welterweight champion in history
                      - oldest welterweight champion in history
                      - only second boxer in history to win world titles 20 years apart
                      - by next year pacquiao will be the first and only boxer to hold world titles in 4 different decade - 90s, 00s, 10s, and 20s
                      - 3x fighter of the year and fotd

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