Comments Thread For: Wilder: When Rematch Bell Rings - I'll Knock Fury Out Even Faster!

[DaNeutral.]

Wilder lost last time. The only time in his whole career he faced quality and he lost, and Fury wasnt even remotely fit and ready to take that fight, and still won.

[champion4ever]

What if Tyson Fury pops dirty for doping again? Which seems to be an occurrence with all of Deontay Wilder's potential opponents. Y'all just saw what happened to Dillian Whyte and it's always Deontay Wilder's fault when their tests come back dirty

[Guest]

Yeah but people say Joshua lost because he wasn't taking it seriously. That excuse is always there when you need it.

You are right about compubox - but it doesn't lie, it's facts and it shows Wilder was landing on Fury. Another fact is Fury was knocked down twice and could have been knocked out cold and stayed down. Before that fight Fury fans were saying 'windmilling' Wilder wouldn't be able to touch him - well 2 knockdowns says otherwise.

I don't particularly regard the 9th round as it was behind the back of the head. Considering he was decked just once, and this was Fury after a huge layoff, that says a lot about Wilder's skills.

I've just checked those stats. What's interesting to me is not a straightforward "Fury landed 10 more the whole fight", but the overall accuracy. In round 10 Wilder is listed as landing just ONE punch. In no rounds outside the two with the KDs is Wilder able to land above 18.4% of his punches... in no round (INCLUDING the two he was KD'd) Fury is able to land at no less than 19%.

In fact, if we ARE going to be discussing CompuBox, then Fury outlanded Wilder in NINE rounds.




In regards AJ, then I do think he (may) be in a better psychological position next time, and Ruiz worse. One was running out of hunger, whereas Ruiz was full of hunger (even though it didn't look like a hungry man). Now that might be reversed somewhat, we'll see.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I don't particularly regard the 9th round as it was behind the back of the head. Considering he was decked just once, and this was Fury after a huge layoff, that says a lot about Wilder's skills.

I've just checked those stats. What's interesting to me is not a straightforward "Fury landed 10 more the whole fight", but the overall accuracy. In round 10 Wilder is listed as landing just ONE punch. In no rounds outside the two with the KDs is Wilder able to land above 18.4% of his punches... in no round (INCLUDING the two he was KD'd) Fury is able to land at no less than 19%.

In fact, if we ARE going to be discussing CompuBox, then Fury outlanded Wilder in NINE rounds.




In regards AJ, then I do think he (may) be in a better psychological position next time, and Ruiz worse. One was running out of hunger, whereas Ruiz was full of hunger (even though it didn't look like a hungry man). Now that might be reversed somewhat, we'll see.

There is no doubt Fury outboxed Wilder overall. But all the Fury boys were saying he wouldn't be able to land on Fury - but he landed 71 punches to Fury's 84. Personally I would have given Fury the first fight - but you can't get knocked down twice away from home and expect to win. So a draw was a fair result - especially since the count Fury got was a lot longer than other boxers get.

Wilder got to Fury towards the end of the fight. I just see it happening earlier next time. The 2nd time Fury fought Chisora he did something completely new and went southpaw from the 2nd round onwards. I don't think he has that option against Wilder because Wilder is so fast. Doing anything radically different would be too risky for Fury.

The fact that Fury didn't take the rematch straight away, shows he was was worried and felt he needed to get better. I have to say though I'm not sure what kind of preperation the bums Fury is fighting are for Wilder. All they do is give him false confidence.

[Guest]

especially since the count Fury got was a lot longer than other boxers get.

This is rapidly becoming a myth on here.

And yes, it was too soon for him to take the fight the first time. I guess these bums give him experience in the ring (just doing it, cardiowise, etc.) and build his profile. I've seen the memes on Twitter with him in "the matrix" avoiding punches. I guess if someone doesn't really follow the sport and doesn't know he's avoiding the punches of a can it looks good.

[Roberto Vasquez]

This is rapidly becoming a myth on here..

It's true, most boxers get waved off when they are out cold, let alone get a longer count than normal to stand up.

All I know is that Fury is fighting bums because he's scared he will lose and not for cardio reasons. And also because his fans let him get away with it...

[Rusty Tromboni]

Wilder might be the closest example of a Heavyweight we've ever seen who has any chance at beating Fury.


That's still a really low chance, mind you.


Completely different levels.

[Guest]

It's true, most boxers get waved off when they are out cold, let alone get a longer count than normal to stand up.

Time on the clock when Fury hit the canvas - 2'21m left in the round (the count would start around 2'20 because Wilder has yet to go to the neutral corner)

Time when Fury gets up - 2'11m left in the round.

The referee had got to 9, which would have been accurate with the actual time. And had his eyes open.


I appreciate that the reality is he was completely KO'd and out for 18 hours and the ref helped him up, but if you want to include FACTS in your discussion, maybe that's a help?

All I know is that Fury is fighting bums because he's scared he will lose and not for cardio reasons.

You KNOW this, do you? Are you psychic? If Fury doesn't rematch him in 2020 then we'll have something to talk about. In the meantime this is just typical fanboy speculation... how anyone could watch that first fight and think it's FURY that has to be worried.....

[Roberto Vasquez]

Time on the clock when Fury hit the canvas - 2'21m left in the round (the count would start around 2'20 because Wilder has yet to go to the neutral corner)

Time when Fury gets up - 2'11m left in the round.

The referee had got to 9, which would have been accurate with the actual time. And had his eyes open.

Watch this video which shows him getting up on 10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuD_G_WE4Sg

I actually said he got more time that any other fighter. Watch Groves Froch II. Groves is out cold and starts to get up at 6 and the ref jumps on him to stop him getting up. Many fighters are waved off if they even get up at 9

You KNOW this, do you? Are you psychic? If Fury doesn't rematch him in 2020 then we'll have something to talk about. In the meantime this is just typical fanboy speculation... how anyone could watch that first fight and think it's FURY that has to be worried.....

I know Fury well. I know he retired when Wlad decided he would take the rematch. I know he was beaten by David Price in the amateurs and then avoided him in the pros. I know Wilder wanted a rematch straight away and Fury didn't. Doesn't seem like Wilder was the one worried does it?

I know Fury is continuously fighting bums.

I also know Fury has no belts and was banned for 2 years for taking PEDs.

What Fury has done his whole career is avoid anyone with a big punch or who is a top-level fighter unless it's for a belt. It's risk-avoidance. That's why his second best win after Wlad is Derek Chisora

[Marchegiano]

Oh man, Tyson's gonna retire after Deontay's done.