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  • #61
    Originally posted by Oshio View Post
    No no Fury won't fight Wilder. His family and promoters will block the fight to maintain his 0
    You have it the wrong way round. Haymon robbed Fury so Wilder could keep his 0.

    Fury travelled to Germany to fight Klitschko, the same man who Wilder ducked, and travelled to America to fight Wilder despite not being fit.

    What risks has Wilder ever taken?

    And please don't mention that 50yr old asthma sufferer.

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    • #62
      In first fight Wilder threw on Fury his biggest shots twice and it wasn`t enough. I don`t think he can stop Fury. No sir. Fury can do it even better.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
        I'm not a Wilder fan but I'm picking him to stop Fury. You didn't notice that Fury ran from the Klitschko rematch and then from the Wilder one? Even Fury knows when people have started to figure him out

        Wilder is probably faster than Fury and worse for Fury he has huge power. He's basically a nightmare version of Cunningham. Fury will get knocked down and get stopped this time.
        I don't blame Fury for having more tune ups, and as far as I'm aware he's due to fight Wilder in Feb 2020.

        People talk about Cunningham, but it's a totally moot point of comparison, because:

        1. Cunningham KD'd Fury because Fury was ****ing around and not respecting him as an opponent. He's not the puncher that Wilder is.

        2. Cunningham had boxing skills. How is Wilder a "nightmare version" of Cunningham when his boxing skills are so limited he spent 11 rounds "figuring out" Fury?



        Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
        Wilder is probably faster than Fury
        He sure showed that.


        Seriously, all I get from Windmillers is a definitive "verdict" on this future fight. Not one expresses doubt that Wilder could be beaten by a man who got a draw with him after Wilder knocked him down twice.... why is that?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by 4truth View Post
          If Wilder had turned that hook over in the first fight, Fury would not have gotten up.



          That said, this rematch is 50/50 imo.
          If, If, If....

          It amazes me that Windmillers talk about ONE punch, ONE knockdown (the 9th wasn't anything) and that this makes it CERTAIN Wilder will win the rematch.

          What the ****?

          That's like being locked in a room with 12 girls for 36 minutes and only thrusting with your **** for 10 seconds. Then you go "I MUST have shagged them all... DEFINITELY."

          Logic... Windmillers....

          ALL Windmillers talk about a part of the fight that lasted less than a minute (or a lot longer than a minute thanks to a crooked referee, if you listen to Windmillers). What about the other 11 rounds, 2 minutes?

          I mean, COME ON. Grow a BRAIN, FFS!

          "My prediction for the next fight is based on 10 seconds of the first... not the rest of it where Deontay looked like a windmilling spastic."

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          • #65
            Originally posted by !! Anorak View Post
            If, If, If....

            It amazes me that Windmillers talk about ONE punch, ONE knockdown (the 9th wasn't anything) and that this makes it CERTAIN Wilder will win the rematch.

            What the ****?

            That's like being locked in a room with 12 girls for 36 minutes and only thrusting with your **** for 10 seconds. Then you go "I MUST have shagged them all... DEFINITELY."

            Logic... Windmillers....

            ALL Windmillers talk about a part of the fight that lasted less than a minute (or a lot longer than a minute thanks to a crooked referee, if you listen to Windmillers). What about the other 11 rounds, 2 minutes?

            I mean, COME ON. Grow a BRAIN, FFS!

            "My prediction for the next fight is based on 10 seconds of the first... not the rest of it where Deontay looked like a windmilling spastic."
            A little touchy huh? Yes, Wilder windmilled away for most of the fight BUT he endured everything landed on him AND he kept on windmilling. My prediction is based on the fact that Wilder has two things going for himself, He has great power and is not the least bit discouraged by failure. let's not pretend that all of Wilder's punches were missing by a lot, some were but there were quite a few near misses. My prediction is based on what I saw and the odds that one of those many wild bolts of lightning lands again.

            ...Did I mention that if Wilder had turned over that hook he would have finished Fury in the 12th? That was meant as a criticism, as most boxers at this level would have done that automatically.

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            • #66
              Wilder will always have a punchers chance, but skillswise he can't live with Tyson.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by !! Anorak View Post
                I don't blame Fury for having more tune ups, and as far as I'm aware he's due to fight Wilder in Feb 2020.

                People talk about Cunningham, but it's a totally moot point of comparison, because:

                1. Cunningham KD'd Fury because Fury was ****ing around and not respecting him as an opponent. He's not the puncher that Wilder is.

                2. Cunningham had boxing skills. How is Wilder a "nightmare version" of Cunningham when his boxing skills are so limited he spent 11 rounds "figuring out" Fury?





                He sure showed that.


                Seriously, all I get from Windmillers is a definitive "verdict" on this future fight. Not one expresses doubt that Wilder could be beaten by a man who got a draw with him after Wilder knocked him down twice.... why is that?
                I already said here I think Wilder will lose to Ortiz (I agree it's not a sensible pick but it's my hunch) so I'm no crazy Wilder fan.

                Your point 1 about Cunningham is wrong because Fury said Cunningham was the best opponent he ever faced and he couldnt outbox him + he could only win by hitting and holding. In Joe Rogan interview

                Your point no.2 is correct I'll give you that

                I supported Fury in the first Wilder fight but his "mental health campaign" has run out/got tiresome now. Let's not forget he was banned for 2 years for taking drugs. Fighting Tom Schwarz lost any goodwill he had from his comeback for me.

                Look at the punch-landed statistics for the first fight. There was only maybe 10 punches in it. Fury looked good dancing around but it masked the truth. He's going to get caught earlier the 2nd fight. You can see Wilder reading him at times in the first fight. He's a better boxer than people think

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
                  I already said here I think Wilder will lose to Ortiz (I agree it's not a sensible pick but it's my hunch) so I'm no crazy Wilder fan.

                  Your point 1 about Cunningham is wrong because Fury said Cunningham was the best opponent he ever faced and he couldnt outbox him + he could only win by hitting and holding. In Joe Rogan interview

                  Your point no.2 is correct I'll give you that

                  I supported Fury in the first Wilder fight but his "mental health campaign" has run out/got tiresome now. Let's not forget he was banned for 2 years for taking drugs. Fighting Tom Schwarz lost any goodwill he had from his comeback for me.

                  Look at the punch-landed statistics for the first fight. There was only maybe 10 punches in it. Fury looked good dancing around but it masked the truth. He's going to get caught earlier the 2nd fight. You can see Wilder reading him at times in the first fight. He's a better boxer than people think
                  I'm getting a bit bored of the Fury show too, as long as he goes on to fight Wilder I'm okay.

                  I may not have made it clear what I was saying about Cunningham... yes, I agree he's skilful and Fury was having issues with him. No problem there. But what I was saying was that Fury was KD'D because he wasn't taking it seriously. People often said that Fury would get KO'd by Wilder if he was knocked down by Cunningham, but it's a different thing. Just talking about the KD only.

                  As for the Fury-Windmiller fight, I don't score fights exclusively by punches landed. I rarely go to compubox to tell me who won a fight. There's more to it than that.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                    A little touchy huh? Yes, Wilder windmilled away for most of the fight BUT he endured everything landed on him AND he kept on windmilling. My prediction is based on the fact that Wilder has two things going for himself, He has great power and is not the least bit discouraged by failure. let's not pretend that all of Wilder's punches were missing by a lot, some were but there were quite a few near misses. My prediction is based on what I saw and the odds that one of those many wild bolts of lightning lands again.

                    ...Did I mention that if Wilder had turned over that hook he would have finished Fury in the 12th? That was meant as a criticism, as most boxers at this level would have done that automatically.
                    Good point on that last one, I'll give you that.

                    But no, I'm not "touchy" - most of this is tongue-in-cheek... but I read Windmillology every day, and it amazes me.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by !! Anorak View Post
                      I'm getting a bit bored of the Fury show too, as long as he goes on to fight Wilder I'm okay.

                      I may not have made it clear what I was saying about Cunningham... yes, I agree he's skilful and Fury was having issues with him. No problem there. But what I was saying was that Fury was KD'D because he wasn't taking it seriously. People often said that Fury would get KO'd by Wilder if he was knocked down by Cunningham, but it's a different thing. Just talking about the KD only.

                      As for the Fury-Windmiller fight, I don't score fights exclusively by punches landed. I rarely go to compubox to tell me who won a fight. There's more to it than that.
                      Yeah but people say Joshua lost because he wasn't taking it seriously. That excuse is always there when you need it.

                      You are right about compubox - but it doesn't lie, it's facts and it shows Wilder was landing on Fury. Another fact is Fury was knocked down twice and could have been knocked out cold and stayed down. Before that fight Fury fans were saying 'windmilling' Wilder wouldn't be able to touch him - well 2 knockdowns says otherwise.

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