So, what was the exact amounts of banned substance found in Whyte's system?

[andocom]

Damn, I should have waited 5 minutes.

[Mammoth]

Damn, I should have waited 5 minutes.

Fuck, I'm sorry man......

[kushking]

Talk about Dazn being a tough sell, the idea of a subscription sporting news website, good luck with that.

With that said, I broke down and paid for you cheap bastards.

Whyte’s A sample revealed the metabolites; his B sample hasn’t been tested yet. The collection date of the samples isn’t known.

One metabolite — 17-epimithandienone —was evident in Whyte’s system at a measurement of 0.9 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter), an industry source told The Athletic. That’s nine-tenths of one part per billion, signifying an ultra-trace amount of the substance.

Another metabolite — 6B-hydroxymethandienone — was found at a measurement of 3.0 ng/ml, per source, which equals three parts per billion, also considered an ultra-trace amount.

The rest of the article is pretty much what has been reported elsewhere. I haven't bothered to try and look up what those "ultra trace amounts" point to, from what Hearn said in some video, he alluded to the fact that Whyte used his VADA results from the similar time in the hearing.

Guessing if they can show a timeline of no metabolites at tests on X, XX, XXX, then these tiny amount at XXXX date and its such a small amount that it came from a tainted supplement and wasn't enough to do anything, thats entirely guess work though. Something was presented to the UK anti doping panel that made them not impose a provisional suspension it seems.

Its actually up under WADA rules required that he gets a 4 yr ban. It will just take a while for that to happen. Also as nobody around here seems to realize,Vada didnt test him near the time he popped for Ukad test,it was apparently more than a month beforehand. Per fat Dan

[andocom]

Its actually up under WADA rules required that he gets a 4 yr ban. It will just take a while for that to happen. Also as nobody around here seems to realize,Vada didnt test him near the time he popped for Ukad test,it was apparently more than a month beforehand. Per fat Dan

I don't think it's mandatory 4 years for a second offense if proved or accepted to be accidental ingestion, i.e. legit tainted supplement.

If you take a supplement that in includes a banned substance but you didn't know or try to find out, your SOL. If you take a supplement that shouldn't contain something but because it's made in a factory in China that didn't clean their vats after mixing some dbol and microscopic traces are in there you might only get a 6 month ban.

[kafkod]

I don't think it's mandatory 4 years for a second offense if proved or accepted to be accidental ingestion, i.e. legit tainted supplement.

If you take a supplement that in includes a banned substance but you didn't know or try to find out, your SOL. If you take a supplement that shouldn't contain something but because it's made in a factory in China that didn't clean their vats after mixing some dbol and microscopic traces are in there you might only get a 6 month ban.

If you can prove 2 things - you didn't use a banned substance deliberately, and you took all reasonable steps to avoid taking one accidentally, you are in the clear.

Ingestion from cross-contamination is therefor not an offence.

[_Rexy_]

If you can prove 2 things - you didn't use a banned substance deliberately, and you took all reasonable steps to avoid taking one accidentally, you are in the clear.

Ingestion from cross-contamination is therefor not an offence.

Where is Dbol naturally occurring though?

[kushking]

I don't think it's mandatory 4 years for a second offense if proved or accepted to be accidental ingestion, i.e. legit tainted supplement.

If you take a supplement that in includes a banned substance but you didn't know or try to find out, your SOL. If you take a supplement that shouldn't contain something but because it's made in a factory in China that didn't clean their vats after mixing some dbol and microscopic traces are in there you might only get a 6 month ban.

Unless Whyte is able to prove that the pills he took contained roids,hes fcked for 4 yrs. Meaning that he will have to have some of the bottle left basically otherwise hes screwed because unlike others with substances found commonly in meat he would have had to have taken a supplement for him to have popped dirty for these exact substances found in his system. (we went over this already on another thread & yes the 2 metabolites are seperate substances as far as testing purposes are concerned) but since hes already been banned before & because he didn't claim it as an excuse that he took something that might contain it,I don't see him getting anything but a career ending suspension basically.(although nowadays hw fighters like briggs will return at age 80 if they need money)

[andocom]

Where is Dbol naturally occurring though?

Dbol isn't naturally occurring, but neither is the clem that Canelo popped for. Naturally occurring has nothing to do with tainted supplements or meet in Canelos case, that is more from chemicals being mixed in vats that were previously used to mix other chemicals, or ingredients being substituted without knowledge.

It's basically taking something which contains a banned substance where you didn't and couldn't have known, plain ignorance isn't enough. Athletes can still get bans for it, but often shorter.

[kafkod]

Where is Dbol naturally occurring though?

It doesn't need to be naturally occurring to be ingested via a contaminated legal supplement.

[kushking]

Dbol isn't naturally occurring, but neither is the clem that Canelo popped for. Naturally occurring has nothing to do with tainted supplements or meet in Canelos case, that is more from chemicals being mixed in vats that were previously used to mix other chemicals, or ingredients being substituted without knowledge.

It's basically taking something which contains a banned substance where you didn't and couldn't have known, plain ignorance isn't enough. Athletes can still get bans for it, but often shorter.

The difference with Canelo is theres mountains of precedents that backed up meat contamination because even fifa tested many sources of meat in restaurants in mexico including high end establishments & the majority were found to contain clenbuterol. Its because in Mexico the majority of meat contains it since they feed it to cattle. Humans lack the beta receptors of cattle so it doesn't really have an effect as fifa has concluded unless an athlete takes extremely large dosages. In whytes case theres literally no way he could've ingested it without having had taken a supplement,which under WADA rules means hes fcked for 4 yrs.(I'd bet any amount on that happening) Under WADA a fighter is responsible for a supplement they took regardless,UNLESS he still has some of the bottle & is able to prove it contains unlisted roids in it.(very very unlikely)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...is-summer.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...rticle-6167753