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  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    Ffs, what planet do you live on?

    If Wilder failed a PED test, do you really think VADA would only tell Shelley Finkel about it, then leave up to him to inform everybody else?

    VADA report failed tests to the governing commission in charge of the fight, the lead promoter, and I believe they inform both fighters if one fails a test, but I could be wrong about that.

    UKAD don't report adverse results to both fighters, and I think they need to change that rule. But UKAD follow their own rules .. not Eddie Hearn's!
    Dillian Whyte reportedly failed drug test before Oscar Rivas fight
    By Patrick L. Stumberg Jul 25, 2019, 3:20pm EDT

    DIllian Whyte’s dream of a WBC title shot may have just gone up in smoke. News broke last night that “The Body Snatcher” failed a drug test ahead of his recent victory over Oscar Rivas, and the details that have emerged since paint an unpleasant picture.

    Promoter Eddie Hearn’s statement neither confirms nor denies the report, but merely claims that “[b]oth fighters were cleared to fight.”

    When told about the initial positive, Whyte asked for his B sample to be tested, as is his right, which would not have been possible until this week. This meant Ukad, the sport’s governing body the British Boxing Board of Control, and the World Boxing Council’s chosen testing body the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency had little option but to allow him to fight.

    The key, damning detail: Rivas (26-1, 18 KO) and his team were not informed of the failed test.

    Team Rivas had already filed a protest over what they alleged to be shady gloving practices before the fight even happened.

    As far as the substance itself, veteran journalist Thomas Hauser reports that Whyte (26-1, 18 KO) tested positive for two metabolites of the anabolic steroid Dianabol. Whyte had previously served a two-year suspension for the stimulant methylhexaneamine in 2012.

    I do want to stress that we have not received official confirmation or denial from Whyte, his team, UK Anti-Doping, or the BBBofC. Neither have we gotten the results from Whyte’s B sample. Even if said sample winds up exonerating Whyte, however, the lack of transparency with Rivas’ team is inexcusable.

    We’ll have more as this develops.

    https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/7/2...ar-rivas-fight

    Great article in Bad Left Hook! That's an example of "the planet I live on!" THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH RIVAS' TEAM IS INEXCUSABLE!!!

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    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      Really?

      Just like Luis Ortiz lost his chance of fighting Wilder and was "out" after failing a VADA test ... before being cleared after an investigation?

      What if Whyte is cleared after an investigation, like Ortiz was?

      Will he still be "out" ... simply because he is promoted by Matchroom, not PBC?
      Ortiz was pulled from the card when he failed the test.... bbboc let the fight go on because of they ****** rule of if a fighter requests B sample be tested can’t go by the A sample results

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      • Originally posted by Toffee View Post
        What do you think he says in that situation?

        Maybe "Dillian has just been cleared to fight by the BBBoC after some issue arising from a UKAD test".

        What does Rivas do with that information?

        Just personally, I'm going to wait for some confirmed facts. BoxingScene articles may be right, but they're not first hand confirmation.
        Yvon Michel's or Oscar Rivas' response is irrelevant! They should have been informed!

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        • So many lame excuses from a bunch of casuals... Rivas got beat bad, end of the story, stop reaching you cry babies.

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          • Originally posted by Toffee View Post
            What do you think he says in that situation?

            Maybe "Dillian has just been cleared to fight by the BBBoC after some issue arising from a UKAD test".

            What does Rivas do with that information?

            Just personally, I'm going to wait for some confirmed facts. BoxingScene articles may be right, but they're not first hand confirmation.
            Exactly. Whyte was cleared to fight. What would have been the point in contacting Rivas and telling him that?

            We should all wait and see what happens when the facts are examined by an independent adjudicating panel,

            If Whyte is found not guilty of a PED violation, PBC fans should accept that, just like they did when Ortiz failed a VADA test and was then cleared on investigation.

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            • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              If you'd listened to the last interview Hearn gave, instead of just looking at the headline and diving in with ignorant comments, like the rest of the herd, you would have heard Eddie outline an important difference between VADA and UKAD.

              VADA just do tests and report the results. UKAD act in partnership with the BBBoC, and they have the power to impose sanctions on UK licensed fighters themselves, like provisionally suspending them immediately if they believe an offence has been committed.

              After interviewing Dillian and getting certain information from him - Hearn didn't say what that was - and also examining the results of his VADA tests, which he passed, UKAD didn't believe that Dillian had committed a PED violation so they cleared him to fight.

              Talking about VADA "clearing" fighters to fight is a figure of speech, which is used all the time by many different people. Why do you suddenly have an issue with Hearn using it now?

              And Rivas is advised by Haymon. He signed with him after beating Jennings.
              The entire interview was Hearn repeating what he said on Twitter he never was asked or address the main question did Whyte fail a drug test and the statement Whyte put out on Twitter is just more bs still never addressing the failed test

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              • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                He already beat Joshua! If he never faces Joshua again, I bet he makes at least what he got for Joshua, but more than likely, a lot more since he beat Joshua!

                I know Ruiz wants to beat Joshua, no matter where the rematch takes place, but he has to be extra careful, seeing what just happened to Rivas with the gloves and the PED testing!
                Again it’s irrelevant whether he already beat AJ 😂. Yeah he KTFO LMAOOO, again that is irrelevant when it comes to him signing a contract for a rematch. The rematch contract that he signed gave AJ a chance to control things. That’s the point of pointing out to you.

                Ruiz cannot abandon his legal duties, and judging by his latest social media account I think his lawyers must have told him to retract his statements, you have Leonard Ellerbe telling him not to go to England, which I understand but the fact of the matter is he has a signed contract which restricts him.

                So knocking out AJ in the first fight, doesn’t mean he can control his destiny when it comes to the rematch, not signing a contract would mean he can control his destiny.... But again! He has a signed contract...

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                • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  Something occurred to me while responding to comments here.

                  Whyte vs Rivas was a WBC sanctioned fight, so surely UKAD and the BBBoC must have informed the WBC when they had a problem with Whyte's test results?

                  If they didn't, that's something that needs to be looked at, pronto.
                  They didn’t inform the wbc they put out a statement saying they wasn’t notified and was trying get more info from the Bbboc

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                  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    I'm sure Eddie had the power to tell Rivas, but it wasn't his job to tell him, so he didn't.

                    Re the gloves - there are 2 sides to every story. Right after the fight, Whyte was complaining about not being able to use the gloves he chose, because they had been given to one of the fighters on the undercard.

                    You will say he was lying and this was all a dastardly plan by Matchroom to cheat Rivas.

                    But then .. you would say that, wouldn't you?

                    Hearn should of told him, and he did not! FOUL! Who gave away Whyte's gloves to an undercard fighter? Was it Yvon Michel? Was it Oscar Rivas? Did they give away BOTH of the previously inspected gloves? Lastly, whose show is this? Was this a GYM card or a MatchRoom card?

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                    • Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                      Ortiz was pulled from the card when he failed the test.... bbboc let the fight go on because of they ****** rule of if a fighter requests B sample be tested can’t go by the A sample results
                      That rule does not exist!

                      I proved that to you by posting links yesterday.

                      Stop fucking lying about it!

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