Why Floyd will NEVER truly get credit for beating Canelo...

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  • strykr619
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    #71
    Originally posted by famicommander
    You really think an extra couple pounds would have changed anything?

    Floyd took him to school. Plain and simple. Canelo very nearly got shut out in that fight.

    Just let it go. It doesn't take away from anything Canelo accomplished before or after that.
    Have you actually ever fought (boxing or MMA) even at a smoker? Weight drain issues are a real thing.

    You sound like a casual fan but has never ACTUALLY done any training or participated in any fighting because of the amateurish question you posed.

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    • Lion81
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      #72
      Originally posted by Quiksilva
      You seem to discredit Mayweather for beating Canelo at a catchweight.

      Would you discredit Pacquiao for fighting Cotto at a catchweight?
      Yes

      and

      Yes to both.

      I hated the fact Canelo was lured into the fight at a catchweight.

      I hated that Cotto was lured into a catchweight against Pac.

      If you haven't noticed, I don't like catchweights. Period.

      They take away from the fight, and only lend themselves to tarnish the win, which gets discredited in the end anyway.

      Fight the actual weights. Same day weigh in is as far as I'll go.

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #73
        Originally posted by Lion81
        Yes

        and

        Yes to both.

        I hated the fact Canelo was lured into the fight at a catchweight.

        I hated that Cotto was lured into a catchweight against Pac.

        If you haven't noticed, I don't like catchweights. Period.

        They take away from the fight, and only lend themselves to tarnish the win, which gets discredited in the end anyway.

        Fight the actual weights. Same day weigh in is as far as I'll go.


        there are only two things worse than catchweights...

        1) fggt casual-fans who insist that the 152 catchweight completely tarnished Mayweather's win over Canelo..... while steadfastly insisting that 145 made to difference to Cotto

        2) fggt casual-fans who cry blue murder over catchweights... despite happily accepting Golovkin's 164 demand on Ward

        catchweights are either, accepted... or they are not accepted, PERIOD

        based on what I said above, it looks like everything you said is correct..... catchweights should probably be completely abolished, now that the 9 inter-divisions exist

        one other grey area.....

        what about when a fighter insists that he is willing and able to drop weight successfully (like Dawson with Ward, and Golovkin with Canelo).....?

        is that really a catchweight?

        so, Dawson said that he can make 168 no problem..... so if Ward had fought him at 169, rather than 168, he would have been doing him a favor..... just like when Golovkin said that he can make 154 no problem, and Canelo demanded 155.....

        when those guys insist that they can make weight, and their opponents says "ok then"..... why is it acceptable for fans to suddenly cry catchweight?

        also, Steve Rolls had been fighting at 168..... the 164 catchweight clearly benefited Golovkin, NOT Rolls..... that catchweight was COMPLETELY unnecessary, because Rolls is levels below Golovkin..... so, how can Golovkin fanboys insist that Golovkin was doing Rolls a "favor" in that fight?

        I agree with your sentiment, totally..... but not with how things will obviously eventuate..... with the fanboys completely failing to keep it real across the board

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