Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz: I'm More Comfortable With Joshua Rematch in U.S.

[Mooshashi]

A-Side Andy isn't comfortable with honoring signed and agreed on contracts

Contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on. That's what lawyers are for. The only reason Hearn would want a UK venue is because he would have the ref and judges in his hip pocket.

Having the fight in the UK is cross purposes against Hearns stated goal of getting to the top of the US market. It's why he brought AJ to the US in the firstplace. Making a few extra bucks (maybe) in the UK would cost him in the long run.

Besides, I've heard more than a few boxers say AJ needs to return to MSG and beat the man who schooled him....for his own mental stability. Not in Wales FFS.

[Curtis Harper]

They're not Ruiz fans theyre Wilder ones. Like Wilder ,Ruiz didn't have a true fan base prior ,another made up one it seems . Most actually complained about AJ picking him even though it was noted he was a better fighter then Miller who would have anew fan base as well as anyone does against Joshua. Ha.

Once AJ bashes Andy, the Andy fan base will all but evaporate.

[Curtis Harper]

Your not understanding his point. Ruiz may understand that if legal action is taken it will not benefit Joshua. He may be willing to risk knowing that, for Joshua not to agree to new terms for the fight, and SUE him would not be adventageous to Joshua.

THis makes a lot of sense and would explain Hearns actions as well.

That's easier than just buying a ticket for 3 seats and honoring his contract ???

I'm hoping Andy doesn't think like this way.

AJ doesn't want to fight Andy just because. He wnats the belts back. If he has to get them from multiple people, he will.

[Curtis Harper]

Contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on. That's what lawyers are for. The only reason Hearn would want a UK venue is because he would have the ref and judges in his hip pocket.

Having the fight in the UK is cross purposes against Hearns stated goal of getting to the top of the US market. It's why he brought AJ to the US in the firstplace. Making a few extra bucks (maybe) in the UK would cost him in the long run.

Besides, I've heard more than a few boxers say AJ needs to return to MSG and beat the man who schooled him....for his own mental stability. Not in Wales FFS.

If a person doesn't have a legal reason to bow out of the signed contract, that contract means everything.

[Curtis Harper]

Andy, prove these people you're an honorable man who's willing to buy a few plane tickets.

[billeau2]

There is more than just clauses in the contract to consider

I don't pretend to know what is in the contract but there have been some excellent points made about the interests of each fighter. Hearns may certainly have the option to sue Ruiz based on a stipulation in the contract, but what happens to the belts? What happens to the rematch? Is it in Joshua's best interest?

Not all contracts are made to be honored by the way. Options for example, where a contract can simply run out of time, or an understanding that new circumstances make the contract voidable (for whatever reason) ... Ruiz may feel that because Joshua needs this fight he has leverage to try to break the contract and demand a new venue. Is this a renegotiation? Well could be. His value is greater now and there could be a greater benefit to trying to void the rematch clause.Just saying this is plausible.

And what about joshua? If Ruiz is sued for damages, who does Joshua fight? Wilder? Fury? They probably won't even give him a chance IF he was ready to do so after this loss.

Some people here think that contracts are not renegotiated. Ruiz has a logical reason to ask for some more things and break this contract. Its nothing personal, not about being stand up lol. Its about trying to take advantage of his present value now and not wait until it is risked in a second fight with a dangerous opponent.

[Htown-Finest]

Once AJ bashes Andy, the Andy fan base will all but evaporate.

I think your right. Not much loyalty these days if ever

The fanny’s Here are like entourages. 1 lost and everybody disappears.

An upset win? They come out of the woods claiming to be day 1’s

I think it’s more people showing support for their nationality i just think it’s funny that some kick knowledge like if they knew who that was a year ago

[billeau2]

That's easier than just buying a ticket for 3 seats and honoring his contract ???

I'm hoping Andy doesn't think like this way.

AJ doesn't want to fight Andy just because. He wnats the belts back. If he has to get them from multiple people, he will.

First off contracts are broken all the time. Everytime you break a cell phone contract why are you not sued? Why does a landlord not take you to rental court for one month's rent? Sometimes the risk of being sued is not sufficient to compel someone to abide and there might even be justification for this breaking of a contract. Legal reasons are not something supreme, they are simply one factor in a matrix.

For Andy Ruiz his value in the present time is now much improved right? Naturally he wants to take advantage of that before risking it again in the ring. So naturally he is trying to renegotiate elements that he can to benefit him in the rematch. Let us assume here that he knows the risk of being sued and understands that it is not sufficient enough to stop him from trying to push for greater benefitts to him, such as location.

That is how contracts work. If we were sued everytime we could be... Phew!!! The strategy he is using is what people do when their value has increased and they want it to be reflected, but are stuck in an old contract. they hope they have leverage... like a singer who will not perform, or a boxer who will not honor a contract and will accept the possibility of a law suite.

[True That]

Not at all, why do you ask?

Just wondering. I like the UK. I may be visiting the UK next year on a Ocean cruise from Bergen, Norway to London, England.

I work for a cruise line, I live in the U.S. but I'm going to get a free cruise next year with free air travel as well and that itinerary is one of 5 that I chose, I just have to see which ones will become available.

[REDEEMER]

Your not understanding his point. Ruiz may understand that if legal action is taken it will not benefit Joshua. He may be willing to risk knowing that, for Joshua not to agree to new terms for the fight, and SUE him would not be adventageous to Joshua.

THis makes a lot of sense and would explain Hearns actions as well.

Ruiz can be sued by the day with a permanent injucture infracture put on him if he does not comply. What this means it will be ruled in favor of AJ because Hearn has legally binded contracts that were agreed to which will give more then enough reason to issue a civil lawsuit. One doesn't need to see contracts to know this.

The longer this goes I'm sure AJ's pockets are deeper and should Ruiz somehow ride out the dead line of a injuncture ruling against him that prohibits him from taking other fights his bank account isnt going to look so great so its really not Aj who should worry here.